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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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RejZoR
RejZoR
@rejzor@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 13 minutes ago

@cstross Elon keeps talking the dumbest shit every time he opens his mouth and everyone just starts throwing money at him without any thinking. Like, anyone remembers stupid Hyperloop? I kept saying that shit cannot ever work from day one and every time I was told he's the genius and I'm the idiot. Well, where's the fucking Hyperloop in every city?

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Molly in Missouri
Molly in Missouri
@whatzaname@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 minutes ago

@cstross anyone still falling for elon musk just really wants to fall for elon musk, or just wants *you* to fall for elon musk while they secretly sell, while they can get their money back, plus yours.

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Feral Fire
Feral Fire
@dgold@goblin.technology replied  ·  activity timestamp 18 minutes ago

@cstross isn't Starship becoming less and less useful as they keep 'iterating' it's development?

That giant cargo capacity keeps on dropping.

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 18 minutes ago

@dgold Starship's first stage works fine (and has even re-flown), engines work fine (ditto). The problem is the upper stage design and the push for full reusability. If they throw away the stupid heat shield and make it a one-shot they could settle for a cheap disposable upper stage with monstrous payload capacity, and they could build it *right now*.

Once they had a 200 tonne payload HLV flying reliably, resuming incremental progress towards reusability would be uncontroversial.

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I_give_u_worms
I_give_u_worms
@i_give_u_worms@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 26 minutes ago

@cstross when his other shit starts to break up it's going to be a pretty busy game of billiards

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Oberon Ohana
Oberon Ohana
@oberono@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 32 minutes ago

@cstross
I've been thinking about that. I ran across this today, and thought Musk might be able to work it in to his pitch:

http://www.weidai.com/black-holes.txt

http://www.weidai.com/black-holes.txt
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mausmalone
mausmalone
@mausmalone@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 46 minutes ago

@cstross Elon Musk wants datacenters in space because he read Neuromancer once in high school and didn't understand any of it.

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Woozle Hypertwin
Woozle Hypertwin
@woozle@toot.cat replied  ·  activity timestamp 51 minutes ago

@cstross I'd be interested in finding out if Scott Manley got anything wrong here.

His take, as I understand it, is basically (1) the physics makes it complicated but not non-doable, and (2) can't be profitable now but may well be so within the foreseeable future -- making it likely that whoever gets there first, even before it's profitable, stands to make the usual absurd amounts of money (especially if orbital access is never properly regulated) once it does become cheap enough for it to be profitable.

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Scale Theory by JT Tilly
Scale Theory by JT Tilly
@SCALETHEORY@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 56 minutes ago

@cstross

"laws of physics say "nope""
But there is a way, figured it out. If "elon" wants the secret then it will cost him the trillion the "board of directors" (doge) .. paid him. 300,000,000 would get a tax refund of $3,333.33

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bellegraylane
bellegraylane
@bellegraylane@universeodon.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@cstross yup. Tesla is dead, X is basically dead. He needs to create more hype, so here comes the physics breaking con to take more investors money.

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Bornach
Bornach
@bornach@masto.ai replied  ·  activity timestamp 32 minutes ago

@bellegraylane @cstross
Musk merged Xitter with xAI to justify its high valuation to investors as an AI company now.
The same crap with Tesla being rebranded an AI robotaxi and humanoid robot company.

So makes sense to pull the same trick with SpaceX to gullible investors. That it's really an AI company so that SpaceX can afford to bail out Tesla when it buys all those unsold Cybertrucks.

Won't be surprised when Neuralink is touted as an AI company next

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Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈
Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈
@Lazarou@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@cstross I remember when he claimed his rocket would be on Mars by 2025 and everyone who doesn't know about Space believed him because he's nothing more than a huckster, selling Science Fiction as fact and Journalism not bothering to look beyond the hype.

This man, who was SO keen to visit the Paedo Island....

#ElonMusk #Space #SpaceX #Hustlers #Grifters #ClanOfPaedophiles

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Allpoints
Allpoints
@allpoints@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@cstross the thing is, the big money knows it's BS or, at least, doesn't care if it's BS. They'll get in early, ride the hype wave and then try to cash out before it all falls apart.

"The stock markets are a way for everyone to participate in owning a company and promote growth." Is nonsense. The markets have become casinos and disconnected from the economy.

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Graeme 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
Graeme 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@pa27@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@cstross Not to mention it probably arrived as a ketamine induced hallucination.
Or maybe grok predicted it.
He possibly even believes it himself, he's so full of it, it's hard to tell.

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Lightfighter
Lightfighter
@Lightfighter@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@cstross But it's great hype for AI bros and TESCREAL cretins.

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S. Lott
S. Lott
@slott56@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@cstross Did he read Singularity Sky and feel he could make that future happen with more computers everywhere?

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Cress
Cress
@CressSalad@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross Totally agree, also just imagine the many scenarios that will eventually hit constellations like this - e.g. the company goes out of business or they lose device control, organisation gets a viral or c&c trojan, systems operational issues (like bad patch rollout) for example

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GhostOnTheHalfShell
GhostOnTheHalfShell
@GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross

Consider for a moment, though that the real money available to the stock market is with the very largest institutions and the wealthiest people basically Elon Musk‘s class.

People with too much money and nothing else to do with it

You can bet they will also manipulate the federal government into just handing them cash supposedly to do all this crazy stuff kinda like all the money that’s flooding into starship that completely ignores contracted objectives

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Toni Aittoniemi
Toni Aittoniemi
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross Data centers on orbit is the stupidest idea ever.

Perhaps even more stupid than letting a remote LLM control your personal computer 🤦‍♂️

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Su_G
Su_G
@Su_G@aus.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross
Yes… said it in 5 words: “salesman's bullshit, lies for fools”.
#elonMusk

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Lucien
Lucien
@lucien@toot.community replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross Starlink might be the only thing one of his companies got right. I've been using one for a while now and it's a game changer when living somewhere remote. I wish we had a suitable EU competitor and not have to contribute to this man's lunacy...

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OldGeek
OldGeek
@oldgeek@masto.yttrx.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 49 minutes ago

@lucien @cstross Nope its still BS. It would have been cheaper to put all that money into running more fiber. Especially the last mile in rural areas. But that is not as sexy as Starlink.

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 13 minutes ago

@oldgeek @lucien Tell me again how running more fibre is going to help internet bandwidth aboard ships at sea or airliners in the sky? (Please do, I'll wait.)

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Didthat
Didthat
@Didthat1957@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross
Elon is a nazi want a be his ties with trump and epstien is why these ppl are not to be supported

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Fazal Majid
Fazal Majid
@fazalmajid@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross won't Kessler Syndrome make space launch dead as a business long before that?

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 26 minutes ago

@fazalmajid No, because the density of particles in orbit falls off as the inverse cube of their altitude—the volume of space around Earth is vast, and the probability of an impact is a function of the particle density at any given altitude and how long your payload spends there on the way up. Starship could plausibly deliver comsat constellations to altitudes much higher than the overcrowded 200km orbits Starlink is crammed into, where impact probability is far lower.

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Attorney Pat Weber
Attorney Pat Weber
@patweber@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@cstross Wild ideas ≠ prospectus

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Taran Rampersad
Taran Rampersad
@knowprose@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@cstross it's the 'put it in a box and sell it' paradigm, where neither the box nor what goes in it can exist.

He, like the 🍊, depend on the masses who lack learning. Not education: learning.

In the most Twainish of ways.

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Knud Jahnke
Knud Jahnke
@knud@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@cstross

Lying worked for Tesla, so he wants to pull the same thing again.

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Dizzy
Dizzy
@BubblegumYeti@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@cstross scam, like always... Just to keep his stock from collapsing.

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Chris
Chris
@ASprinkleofSage@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@cstross Elon, bullshit? Sir! I request you consider retracting that statement!

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Daniel Swann
Daniel Swann
@danielswann@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@cstross see also: paypal’s original mission and what it became. overpromise, underdeliver, criticise governments, live off government funding. Musk is a charlatan

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Melissa
Melissa
@manchestermelly@universeodon.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@cstross I'm pretty sure he also wants his name in the news with stories newer than his email begging Epstein to let him come rape some kids, as if he thinks everyone will forget he's a nonce.

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Pierrette
Pierrette
@Pierrette@mastodon.uno replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@cstross
After all he Made his statement from Mars
Oh
Did he ?

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Bruno Nicoletti
Bruno Nicoletti
@bjn@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@cstross It was obvious bollocks (just like hyperloop, the boring company etc…), just I didn’t know why he was boosting it as I didn’t realise he was planning an IPO this year. Tosser.

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Mathias Hasselmann
Mathias Hasselmann
@taschenorakel@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@cstross Just another reckless person collecting stupid money by selling them snake oil.

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Tony Hoyle
Tony Hoyle
@tony@toot.hoyle.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@cstross And the announcement timed after he appeared in the epstein files.

Now we're talking about this BS instead..

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George B
George B
@gbargoud@masto.nyc replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@cstross @tony

Don't know about you but I have not stopped talking about him begging to go to pedo Island (and it seems being rejected the majority of the time)

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Fazal Majid
Fazal Majid
@fazalmajid@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@gbargoud @cstross @tony it takes a special kind of creepy to weird even Epstein out.

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Graydon
Graydon
@graydon@canada.masto.host replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@fazalmajid Well, that, probably, but also "power broker".

The Epstein files function to identify the de facto real power structure. (As he saw it, but considering how long he kept what running, he can't have been too far off.)

(It also identifies the help and the wannabes.)

@gbargoud @cstross @tony

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Konosocio
Konosocio
@konosocio@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@cstross and there is the Kessler syndrome to look forward to.

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Kristian Thy
Kristian Thy
@kthy@helvede.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@cstross Bullshit has always been what he excels at.

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