…There’s a lot more, including a fascinating segment about the early 20th Century Technocracy movement that Elon Musk’s grandfather was a part of, and reflections on the UK’s December report on ecosystem collapse.
“Finance can and did stretch reality for a while, and politics can in turn delay recognition for a while, but neither can repel energy costs, material limits, or ecological feedbacks.”
I could quote the whole episode but instead, have a listen: