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Julia Evans
Julia Evans
@b0rk@social.jvns.ca  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

i'm also curious about what issues having fewer IPv4 addresses causes for organizations, like I'm looking at how (if there aren't other ASNs I'm missing)
University of Toronto has 300,000+ IPv4 addresses while VietNam National University has 4,096
https://ipinfo.io/AS45542 https://ipinfo.io/AS239

or the other way around, I know MIT used to have 18.0.0.0/8, what kind of benefits were there to having a /8 for people at MIT? (presumably they were mostly unused)

AS239 University of Toronto details - IPinfo.io

AS239 autonomous system information: WHOIS details, hosted domains, peers, upstreams, downstreams, and more

AS45542 VietNam National University Ha Noi details - IPinfo.io

AS45542 autonomous system information: WHOIS details, hosted domains, peers, upstreams, downstreams, and more
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Mx. Aria Stewart
Mx. Aria Stewart
@aredridel@kolektiva.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@b0rk Oh man the MIT network has so many assumptions baked in that the whole thing is publicly addressable. Professors used to run servers on their desks. The whole organization had a very anarchic network, and then layers of administration on top to deal with _that_. @dentalflossbay might have more details of how it used to be and how it's changed, but that really is a shaping assumption that changed as we brought in NAT in organizations.

I started my career when NAT was new, and mostly symmetric, a tool for migrating between networks — you'd have a rule like "rewrite 1.2.3.x to 5.6.7.x" and apply it bidirectionally, without any of the state-tracking that modern NAT does.

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Federico Mena Quintero
Federico Mena Quintero
@federicomena@mstdn.mx replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@aredridel @b0rk Back in college, our institute's FTP server (a Pentium 90 with a VGA monitor) had researcher's files, early GNOME releases, and it was one of the machines we used to play Doom in the afternoons. I think it may have driven one of the shared printers there, too.

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