@Daojoan Problem is that almost all software; including OS are shipped unfinished and semi-broken. I'm very willing to buy software, pay for upgrades but not when the product is unfinished. And IF I decide to buy an "Early Access" Software/Game - in other words; when I am a software-tester that is going to be unpaid. Then ... there needs to be some other benefit.
I'm very willing to pay for software; pay for upgrades - but then it needs to work. And theese days it very often does not.

@Daojoan I don’t think it’s just pay-once users. I think people have been trained to expect updates all the time. Which is not good and is the fault of the app industry.

I’m a pay once user. The only subs I have are iCloud and Ivory app. And Apple TV only when something is on I want to watch.

I only expect updates if that is what was promised because the app is new and they said they had a roadmap.

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The corollary is the people who see a profitable company and ask why they don't (a) lower prices or (b) add features they want, or (c) why they charge extra for optional features.

Alternatively, companies should be boycotted which regularly update software with new features whose subscription model creates a reliable cashflow that allows constant updates (instead of 'banking' on features to entice upgrades.

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@Daojoan Reply Guys in the wild, exhibit No 314,159,265 😂

@Daojoan I have nothing real to contribute here, but I read “pay-once” pronounced like Beyoncé and that sent me on a fun mental spiral before I figured out what you were talking about 😆

@Daojoan Things 3.0.0 was released in 2017. The current version is 3.22.9 and not only update the app for work with new OS, they add new features. For $60 I think it's more than worth it.

@Daojoan the tweet by the cultured code folks makes me love the app more. Trust them more.

@Daojoan Well. I’ve been using #Things since it first came out. It is the best. And each time I run into an issue, they are quick with support and hang in there with me until the prob is solved. That’s my experience.

@Daojoan No, it's the equivalent of buying a book and getting mad when some pages stick together and others are illegible, and wanting a copy that's been done right.

@Daojoan It's a todo app. What new features does it need? Either it keeps track of your todos or it doesn't.

@Daojoan We could use more feature-complete applications that just get bug fixes. It's okay for something to have a refined scope and be 'done'. So often the chase after the next shiny new thing leads to bloated dependencies and growing resource use in a world that really needs to reduce its consumption.

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Does it not occur that "constant updates" are part of the problem. Not every innovation is an improvement.

@Daojoan I think you've got this all wrong. When I buy an app, I'm expecting bugs to be fixed and them to respond to "I have a problem doing X. What am I doing wrong." That's me asking the landlord to fix the water heater or replace the dripping kitchen faucet.

I don't expect a new user interface or "the app will now work with Y". That's why I pay for upgrades. I do expect to get some sort of discount for buying an upgrade. I hate companies that make me buy the app all over again just so it runs on the next release of the operating system.

Developers that do minimal support or ghost me get zero stars. If I use the app enough, I might even fork it on git and make my own version.

Or I stop using it entirely and find something else, like TickTick or 2Do. YMMV