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jwz
@jwz@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

Mozilla is cooked.

https://jwz.org/b/yk2n

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jwz: Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon. Mozilla is cooked.
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Alex Russell
Alex Russell
@slightlyoff@toot.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@jwz I honestly thought you might have been exaggerating, but then I clicked through to the article...and jesus effing christ, the whole board need to be launched into the sun.

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@jwz My read is that Google—Mozilla's main funding source these days—have *ordered* them to spend money on AI (meanwhile supplying the money to do so). No mainstream browser may remain uncompromised by the grift. amirite?

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Taggart
Taggart
@mttaggart@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross @jwz I'm not so sure it's that. Mozilla view The Goog as a liability, and want to diversify revenue away from the disastrously single-sourced search royalties. They have concluded that the best way to do so is pursuing AI, while under the guise of "liberating" AI from corporate control. The latter is of course a joke, since uhhhh where exactly do those foundation models come from, even the "open" ones?

https://taggart-tech.com/mozilla-cycle-pt3/

The Mozilla Cycle, Part III: Mozilla Dies in Ignominy

Mozilla's new strategy document confirms their position, and the end of their stewardship of the open web.
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Nicole Parsons
Nicole Parsons
@Npars01@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross @jwz

We all need to remember where Google's money comes from... #PrinceBonesaw and Chris Hohn.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/15/major-investor-calls-on-google-owner-to-aggressively-cut-staff-and-pay

https://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-arabia-crown-prince-visits-apple-google-2018-4

https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/chris-hohns-tci-made-18-9-billion-last-year-shattering-hedge-fund-records-e155153b

We need more reporting on why the fossil fuel industry is suddenly so desperate to get AI into every aspect of tech & everyone's personal life

Browsers, robots, vehicles, farm tractors, home appliances, laptops, cloud services, IOT medical devices, news, content creation...

the Guardian

Major investor calls on Google owner to ‘aggressively’ cut staff and pay

Hedge fund owned by Christopher Hohn urges Alphabet to emulate cost-cutting measures of Silicon Valley rivals
Bloomberg.com

Google, Thiel Feature in Saudi Prince's Silicon Valley Tour

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman wrapped up a whirlwind tour of technology titans on Friday, part of a three-week U.S. visit focused on economic opportunities to diversify the oil-rich nation.
Business Insider

Saudi Arabia's millennial crown prince got a rare tour inside Apple's new $5 billion campus

Saudi Arabia's millennial crown prince got to see the inside of Apple's new $5 billion campus.
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Oblomov
Oblomov
@oblomov@sociale.network replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross @jwz well, in Google's case the pressure is most likely internal. For Mozilla it'd be interesting to see if there was a gentle push from the outside or if this is inbred^W in-board general idiocy.

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Jens Finkhäuser
Jens Finkhäuser
@jens@social.finkhaeuser.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@oblomov @cstross @jwz Consider that Mozilla being cooked has a few decades of history.

Back around 2007ish, I was working with a few folk who either came from or later went to Mozilla. Anyhow, some of them were involved with the XHTML 2.0 spec.

Which was finished.

But then got ditched.

Because Googleites insisted a "living spec" was the right thing, which can only be implemented by whoever throws the most money at it, and we now have HTML5 and a browser engine monopoly.

And Mozilla?

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Christof Damian 💙💛
Christof Damian 💙💛
@cdamian@rls.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@jwz
Meanwhile the AI companies are burning the planet to build browsers from scratch as a benchmark.
https://cursor.com/blog/scaling-agents

This is how we all lose.

Cursor

Scaling long-running autonomous coding

We've been experimenting with running coding agents autonomously for weeks at a time.
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David Gerard
David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cdamian @jwz *to reskin Servo, it turns out

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Christof Damian 💙💛
Christof Damian 💙💛
@cdamian@rls.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@davidgerard
Bloody hell
@jwz

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