I love #activitypub but seeing how slow its development is compared to #atproto makes it hard to be excited about it. This goes for both protocol development and ecosystem development.
ATproto has many cool projects popping up every month, the vision is clear and platforms integrate with each other.
I don't see this excitement and work on the ActivityPub side :(
@res260 I think part of that is the API.
In our ecosystem, we've normalized that you have to build the whole server side, with data storage and network interoperability and so on, for every single new kind of app.
It'd be great if you could use a standard API to make cool apps, and leave all the plumbing to a general-purpose server.
That's what we're doing in the ActivityPub API task force at w3c.
Re: I love #activitypub but seeing how slow its development is compared to #atproto makes it hard to be excited about it.
@evan@cosocial.ca 100% agreed on the heavy(-ier) lift that is AP development.
However that's how standalone apps have always been developed, and there is a reason why.
When you rely on someone else's tech, then when they sunset the tech or it otherwise becomes unfavourable, you're fucked (pardon my french)
I've seen entire businesses jump head first into building "Facebook apps" after Farmville exploded. None of them are around now and Zynga is currently worth $8 on the NASDAQ.
Though there is a risk that the #ActivityPub ecosystem becomes so much of a straggler that #fediverse goes the way of bulletin boards and newsreaders (forever niche), overall the slow organic growth and evolution on the fediverse is a good thing. And #ATProto being the lightning rod for hasty commercial growth-hacking helps keep the ecosystem on that path, able to - in more protected territory - build robust foundations for interoperable standards-based social networking.
Re: I love #activitypub but seeing how slow its development is compared to #atproto makes it hard to be excited about it.
@res260@infosec.exchange on that we agree. There is lot of momentum in the ATProto space and I can sense that all the way over here (I am not plugged in to that side, at all.)
The apps that are coming out are really interesting and the ease of development does foster that kind of environment.
