Of course, if I do bring up a Zulip server, it will be self hosted - currently on my mac Mini. Should be enough for a handful of users I imagine.
Unfortunately, it does not appear to be available on NixOS, so if I set it up, I will probably cheat and run it in podman.
@algernon zulip is really nice! however self hosting it is kindof a pita, essentially they expect you to install it on a dedicated debian server, and even docker is not recommended
I know that we want to offer zulip to our customers at my work, but that it's a bit of a pain, although the compose is manageable
so maybe compose2nix is the way?
@algernon the only issue with selfhosting is that people won't get notifications. Zulip only supports the notification gate with paying customers (although its not that expensive, and you can get a free tier as a maintainer of an opensource project if you message them)
@zenmaya Hm, that notification issue is for mobile clients only, no? So people using the app on, say, Linux, or the PWA would get notifications even when self hosted, right?
Because then I don't care.
@algernon i think so, i think if you are at least connected as a process you get notifications, just the notification gate doesnt work without payment
you can also host your own gate and bake it into the app, just you need to recompile the mobile app
@zenmaya nod nod
That makes sense. Would be great if it had an option to notify through something like ntfy.sh - that has its warts too, but at least it doesn't go through Google, and one can use their own.
But, anyway. This isn't a blocker, so, yay! :)
@zenmaya compose2nix features Claude as one of its contributors, so that's gonna be a nope. I don't need it either way, because I only need Zulip in there, Postgres & Redis can be on the host. quadlet-nix will do the job nicely! :)
@algernon okay!)) i didnt know that, i just know i used it to quickly translate compose files, but its valid not to use it)
@zenmaya I didn't know either until I went to check it out. Used it a while ago, but forgot about it - now I looked at it, and the userscript I use screamed at me when it saw Claude commits O:)
@algernon I've learned to kind of like Zulip. It's nicer than mailing lists or IRC. If I had a hobby project with users I'd find a way to have a Zulip instance for it.
@liw nod, that's my experience as well. It took me a bit to warm up to it, but it's growing on me. Not entirely happy about the client situation (electron :(), but I find it far less annoying than the alternatives.
Probably a lot easier to self-host it aswell, even if I have to shove it in a podmain container.
