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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

Why NOBODY with a sense of self-preservation should go to the Winter Olympics: you'd be putting yourself in the gunsights of masked murderthugs:

https://apnews.com/article/ice-milan-cortina-olympics-immigration-enforcement-us-110fa4b2066e1fb920dba2a71c3a89e0

AP News

ICE agents will have a security role at Milan-Cortina Olympics, US sources say

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents will have a security role during the upcoming Milan Cortina Winter Games.
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Aho
Aho
@aho@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@cstross had been more safe is just asked the mafia to run the security

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Skjeggtroll
Skjeggtroll
@skjeggtroll@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross

Apparently, they're not welcome:

https://www.newsweek.com/ice-agents-winter-olympics-milan-mayor-11421630

Newsweek

ICE agents due at Winter Olympics "not welcome": Milan mayor

ICE agents are expected to support diplomatic security details at the Winter Olympics in Italy in February.
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Ignazio Palmisano
Ignazio Palmisano
@ignaziop1977@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross the only role in security they should have is inmates.

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GutterPoetry
GutterPoetry
@GutterPoetry@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross

Trying to keep people from knowing what's going on in the US, or keep the US citizens from seeing the reactions of non-cultified people to the current US authoritarian nightmare?

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@GutterPoetry This is what fascist-leaning governments always do. Restrictions on free movement are initially pitched as stopping undesirables getting in, but before long it's all about keeping their victims from escaping. Then they start building gas chambers and digging mass graves.

(I hope I'm wrong, but Trump's USA is definitely speed-running a play through of the Third Reich.)

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GutterPoetry
GutterPoetry
@GutterPoetry@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross

I also hope you're wrong but unfortunately I think you're spot on.

I've been feel guilty, almost as though it's fear mongering or wishing awful things into existence, but I think the enemy has to be seen and understood to be fought. Also maybe because I'm relatively safe for now in Europe.

It's maddening to see americans still so complacent, but at the same time it's so hard to get people over here to even give up their shitty fascist aligned social media... We need a movement!

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Michael Newton
Michael Newton
@mavnn@bonfire.mavnn.eu replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@cstross@wandering.shop Are they... deliberately trying to keep people away? This almost feels like an attempt to isolate the US on purpose rather than just offending everybody and assuming you're so important it won't matter. Which I suppose could be the next step in an authoritarian take over, but it seems at odds with the vast narcissism displayed so far.

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@mavnn Yes they're trying to keep people away. Have you seen the proposed new Visa Waiver entry deets they want to collect? ALL your (and your family's) social media accounts, email addresses, and phone numbers going back five years? DNA samples?

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JulesJones
JulesJones
@JulesJones@mendeddrum.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross @mavnn I saw that and thought I need to warn Spousal Unit that it would *not* be a good idea to provide my social media details. And ideally not go to the US on business again. I'm on an Android - I assume the secret police already have whatever access they want to my activity.

Also, I doubt I could even provide all my email addresses. I've used a lot of burner addresses over the years as an anti spam and phishing measure.

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xinit ☕
@xinit@mastodon.coffee replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@cstross
ICE shouldn't be allowed by any other nation to travel outside of the USA.

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sotolf
sotolf
@sotolf@polymaths.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@cstross Why would the US Border Cops do things... ...outside of their borders?...

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

REMINDER: The US defines their border—where CBP operate—as "anywhere within 100 miles of a port or frontier". Which sounds only a little dodgy until you realize that EVERY airfield and airport in CONUS is defined as a "port", and there are thousands of them. About 80% of the land area of the Continental USA is therefore a free fire range for jackbooted thugs with effectively unqualified imminuity for gunning down random citizens.

@sotolf

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Autoerotic Defenestration
Autoerotic Defenestration
@danielaKay@mastodon.cloud replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@cstross @sotolf but ... that only goes for their own country.

Like, inside the US, Border Patrol has jurisdiction over everything within 100m of a port or frontier".

That doesn't apply to territories outside of the United States.

- greetings from 17km away from the Berlin airport, which is not a US border.

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