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zbrando
zbrando
@zbrando@social.vivaldi.net  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl The @EUCommission should hurt the US tech bros, not with sanctions but with laws that open products and markets, like suggested by @pluralistic

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Urzl
Urzl
@gooba42@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

@randahl But that would hurt the other rich people who run the world. They've painted themselves into a corner by ceding everything to the oligarchs. The only interests so many governments recognize today are the interests of the idle investor class.

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Ivey Janette McClelland
Ivey Janette McClelland
@IveyJanette@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@randahl Acting like a baby.

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The Animal and the Machine
The Animal and the Machine
@taatm@mathstodon.xyz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@randahl
What’s really really interesting here is that US-T is the backbone to most securities. Pension funds will find themselves not wanting the value of US-T’s to drop while also not wanting to be holding them.

European pension funds need to gently divest but I’m not sure US ones can. Stuff like this can run, and with this one it can cascade, sub-prime style.

Trump might be about to wipe out boomer US pensions and with that a portion of the global economy. Catastrophic. This is why they fall to their knees.

This could get ugly.

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Randahl Fink
Randahl Fink
@randahl@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@taatm it is terrorist logic: "I am ready to commit suicide, therefore you must obey!"

But Trump's problem is, members of Congress are not ready to support him crashing the US economy.

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ClassWario
ClassWario
@classwario@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl The world is Enron, though. Investment economy is like having your head up your ass and saying you found a new universe, non-causal, exponentially abstracted.

I think the doctrine necessary is more like mutually assured destruction. Unfortunately, when you have a bad actor in a self harm pact, you can’t get out without pain.

For instance, Clinton move with US house subpoena should have been “yes. AND…”. Now Europe has to remove its head from US ass, but it’s sewn and requires a tear.

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3rdi
3rdi
@3rdi@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl I think Canada just sold $56 billion worth. Warning shot?

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Dibs
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@dtwx@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl which also brings us to the question: who is going to finance this "purchase" of Greenland? What "we" are by buying US bonds? Er, no.

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Randahl Fink
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@randahl@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@dtwx that is an important point.

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Angie Taylor
Angie Taylor
@angietaylor@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

Time to stop buying US goods & using US software I’m afraid. I’m looking into EU alternatives for my digital life. There’s a website here to help anyone else who wishes to extricate themselves from the untrustworthy US. It’s so sad, feels like the end of a relationship 💔 https://european-alternatives.eu/

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don't panic
don't panic
@dontpanic@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl

#ETF and other #stocks selling might be working well too. Its time to deinvest the #US industry.

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Graeme 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
Graeme 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@pa27@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl Except of course, Russia. He's still Pootins pussy.

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gen2punk
gen2punk
@gen2punk@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl ...and watch him start World War III, I'd say.

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zbrando
zbrando
@zbrando@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl The @EUCommission should hurt the US tech bros, not with sanctions but with laws that open products and markets, like suggested by @pluralistic

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Mark Mullen
Mark Mullen
@mmm@mastodon.sdf.org replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@zbrando @randahl @EUCommission @pluralistic

Exactly. #JailbreakEU not just #Canada

https://chinwag.pluralistic.net/t/pluralistic-digital-elbows-up-28-nov-2025/1835

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WesDym
WesDym
@wesdym@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl Actually, that might be a good idea, as they're probably going to lose value anyway.

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Martin Wiesemann
Martin Wiesemann
@i_martinw@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl Hmm, shorting the US of A? Interesting 🤔

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Ruth O'Day
Ruth O'Day
@RuthODay2@chaosfem.tw replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl

That's the one place where I see a use for Mark Carney: with his connections in banking, he can arrange that sell-off.

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Andrew Jennings
Andrew Jennings
@andyjennings@aus.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl just as he bullies US citizens with ICE, he has the equivalent relationship with US bond holders. Look at the deal with Japan. It's Mafia stuff. (when did China start selling off US bonds? 1993)

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🎠Bo Abrahamsen
🎠Bo Abrahamsen
@Dr_BoAbrahamsen@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@randahl His strategic genius just made China a preferred trading partner for Canada, almost as successful as when Putin drove Sweden and Finland into NATO.
Looks like the Trump EU trade deal is off the table now, EU Parliament looks set not to ratify.

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