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Red Lucy
Red Lucy
@lucydev@wetdry.world  ·  activity timestamp last week

the whole ai-bro shtick about "ai democritizes art/programming/writing/etc" seemed always so bs to me, but i couldn't put it into words, but i think i now know how.

ai didn't democritize any of these things. People did. The internet did. if all these things weren't democritized and freely available on the internet before, there wouldn't have been any training data available in the first place.

the one single amazing thing that today's day and age brought us is, that you can learn anything at any time for free at your own pace.

like, you can just sit down, and learn sketching, drawing, programming, writing, basics in electronics, pcb design, singing, instruments, whatever your heart desires and apply and practice these skills. fuck, most devs on fedi are self taught.

the most human thing there is is learning and creativity. the least human thing there is is trying to automate that away.

(not to mention said tech failing at it miserably)

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myrmepropagandist
myrmepropagandist
@futurebird@sauropods.win replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@lucydev

It's also condescending, insulting, to disabled people to suggest that if some of them, IDK, struggle with a paint brush what is needed is for the computer to draw it for them rather than for all of us to look and listen with more care to the work that they create.

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myrmepropagandist
myrmepropagandist
@futurebird@sauropods.win replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@lucydev

I heard a guy say AI could "make art more diverse" and he had all these images of black elves and dwarfs. As if "lacking diversity" were just a surface issue not one built into who gets to participate, who has the time for creative expression.

As if just pasting in a different colored face were the same thing as having an artist who wanted to draw that diversity and whose work would emerge from and improved by the culture and experiences of the creator.

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myrmepropagandist
myrmepropagandist
@futurebird@sauropods.win replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@lucydev

These AI as equity arguments aren't coming from people who have ever said anything about "equity" before this moment, and they will never say anything about equity after this moment. They don't really care about equity. They just want to have something to say that might pause our criticism.

"What if it really could help people?"

Let that go. If it could help people you'd see people using AI effectively to help people.

They are using it as cover.

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alcinnz
alcinnz
@alcinnz@floss.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@lucydev You know... I somehow doubt these techbros celebrating the "democratization of art" are familiar with the art the internet has democratized...

I suspect they're just watching the Hollywood movies most others are.

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Red Lucy
Red Lucy
@lucydev@wetdry.world replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

alr the sentence "the most human thing there is is learning and creativity. the least human thing there is is trying to automate that away." goes so hard imma drop it in my bio now

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@thomasjwebb@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@lucydev I think there's a kernel of truth that anything that lowers the barriers can be democratizing. Like I don't think I really could have made music 50 years ago. I'm just not good enough of a musician if I can't just drop notes in a DAW. I don't think a text to PCM model is the logical conclusion of that though. It needs to be something we control AND own, that allows human input throughout the process, not some black box automagick.

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Alex, the Hearth Fire
Alex, the Hearth Fire
@WizardOfDocs@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 24 hours ago

@thomasjwebb @lucydev there's a big difference between tools that give you opportunities to be creative and tools that take those opportunities away

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Your weary 'net denizen
Your weary 'net denizen
@cstanhope@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@lucydev That's a beautiful sentence. I would add teaching to your list. I know it's the complement of learning, but I like to emphasize the passing down and sharing of knowledge and skills as a very human activity. Any of the quality material I learn from was made by a fellow human, either through books or in person. Trying to automate teaching is also a mistake I think.

But regardless, thank you for sharing your thoughts and highlighting that sentence.

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Dave bauer
Dave bauer
@davebauerart@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@cstanhope @lucydev This is really interesting because so many people are out here just sharing what they are doing, and what they know, without thinking of it as teaching.

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Your weary 'net denizen
Your weary 'net denizen
@cstanhope@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@davebauerart @lucydev Yeah, that is part of why I was motivated to comment. Make explicit this very human activity. 😀

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