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@bengo@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

Friendly reminder #ActivityPub protocol development will go back behind permissioned closed doors (unless you pay w3c or are deemed an invited expert) doors at w3c in the near future. RIP 2018-2025 open ActivityPub governance in SWICG.

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aburka 🫣
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@aburka@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@bengo that sucks. Any way to stop it?

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@bengo@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@aburka I tried but nah it goes all the way to the top, and w3c staff send intimidation in response to dissent, so not worth it for most. The time to stop it was the last 2.5 years of discussion and conspicuous lack of consensus. that was all after w3c staff told insiders at TPAC 2023 off minutes “send me a charter and I’ll get the WG started right away”.

It’s not up to us or even AP editors, none of whom have supported this.
It’s up to the W3C CEO and board.

“Vote with your feet”

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@bengo@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@aburka one more thing: I’m genuinely super excited about the near term readiness of social webs based on open protocols and architecture appropriate for 2025, not AP’s outdated arch from more than 15 years ago (eg AP had client side signatures in 2017, but the chairs of the old group cut it at the last minute so now your Mastodon instance can spoof you).

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." – John Maynard Keynes.

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@bhaugen@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@bengo thanks for the warning. Where can I learn more?

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@bengo@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@bhaugen unfortunately I don’t have a great recommendation. but in two weeks I predict you will see plenty of self congratulation associated with an invite only in person meeting where the closed open social development begins

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@bengo@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@bhaugen unfortunately I don’t have a great recommendation. but in two weeks I predict you will see plenty of self congratulation associated with an invite only in person meeting where the closed open social development begins

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