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Richard Littler
Richard Littler
@Richard_Littler@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp last week

🧵 Erich von Däniken is dead, aged 90. Many of my generation will remember him as a proponent of the pseudoscientific 'ancient aliens' theory, just one of the many sensationalist supernatural topics that flooded culture in the 1970s.
I've had this book since I was a little kid.

#ancientaliens

Book: Chariots of the Gods? by Erich von Däniken
Book: Chariots of the Gods? by Erich von Däniken
Book: Chariots of the Gods? by Erich von Däniken
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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@Richard_Littler Just noting that there's a very skeevy racist subtext running just below the surface of Von Daniken's thesis—that ancient people *couldn't* have built the monumental structures they left behind, so they must have been "helped" by aliens (clearly white savior-coded).

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Carl Muckenhoupt
Carl Muckenhoupt
@CarlMuckenhoupt@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@cstross @Richard_Littler This is why I've always liked the Woodman hypothesis. He says "OK, let's suppose Von Daniken is right about the Nazca lines: they were meant to be viewed from the sky. Does this really necessitate aliens? Or is it possible that the people of ancient Peru simply invented flight?" And then he goes and demonstrates that it is indeed possible by building a hot air balloon using only materials and tech known to have been available to the builders of the Nazca lines.

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aprilfollies
aprilfollies
@aprilfollies@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@cstross @Richard_Littler There’s even a meme for that…

The image features a black background with text that reads, "JUST BECAUSE WHITE PEOPLE COULDN'T DO IT DOESN'T MEAN IT WAS ALIENS." It includes illustrations of a Moai statue, a Mayan pyramid and calendar, a Nazca lines bird, and a trio of Egyptian pyramids.
The image features a black background with text that reads, "JUST BECAUSE WHITE PEOPLE COULDN'T DO IT DOESN'T MEAN IT WAS ALIENS." It includes illustrations of a Moai statue, a Mayan pyramid and calendar, a Nazca lines bird, and a trio of Egyptian pyramids.
The image features a black background with text that reads, "JUST BECAUSE WHITE PEOPLE COULDN'T DO IT DOESN'T MEAN IT WAS ALIENS." It includes illustrations of a Moai statue, a Mayan pyramid and calendar, a Nazca lines bird, and a trio of Egyptian pyramids.
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NSKE
NSKE
@nske@ravenation.club replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@cstross @Richard_Littler Ugh, my old man was well into this stuff, to the extent that he'd nod-and-wink that anyone who knew what they were talking about (eg. contemporary scientists like Hawking) must be an alien. Which isn't really helpful when your own son is doing a physics degree, is it?

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Owlet of Minerva
Owlet of Minerva
@noctuaminervae@toot.si replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@cstross @Richard_Littler There's the implied subtext. And then there's the explicit, in-your-face JAQing off, like: "Was the black race a failure and did the extraterrestrials change the genetic code by gene surgery and then programme a white or a yellow race?" (von Däniken, /Signs of the Gods/, 1980, in the chapter “Man Outsmarts Nature” – loads more where that came from)

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Isaac Ji Kuo
Isaac Ji Kuo
@isaackuo@spacey.space replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@cstross @Richard_Littler Back when colonialist white supremacist racism sold well. The whole racist "ancient aliens" thing has stuck around in the decades since, but not in such profitable form I think.

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datarama
datarama
@datarama@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@cstross @Richard_Littler It's curious that the Egyptians and Maya had to have some help from aliens but the Romans didn't, isn't it?

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@datarama @Richard_Littler Exactly this.

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Jonathan T
Jonathan T
@JonnyT@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@cstross @datarama @Richard_Littler See also Great Zimbabwe (not mentioned in the article but aliens were also postulated as the origin at one point as well; anything and anyone so long as it wasn't black people):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Zimbabwe

Great Zimbabwe - Wikipedia

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guenterhack
guenterhack
@guenterhack@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@cstross @Richard_Littler I've met the guy back in 2004 when his bizarre theme park was relatively new. Some analogue shots right off the Migros Picture CD-ROM in this thread: https://mastodon.social/deck/@guenterhack/115877370682477543

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Richard Littler
Richard Littler
@Richard_Littler@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@cstross Just one example among a great litany of things wrong with his books/theories.

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Richard Littler
Richard Littler
@Richard_Littler@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

Däniken's 'paleo-contact' claims of extraterrestrial influences on early human development, attracted a dedicated following, despite his earlier convictions for theft, fraud and embezzlement. Films, soundtracks, and even prog concept albums followed his books.

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Movie poster for Chariots of the Gods?
Movie poster for Chariots of the Gods?
Movie poster for Chariots of the Gods?
Prog album:  In search of Ancient Gods
Prog album: In search of Ancient Gods
Prog album: In search of Ancient Gods
Movie soundtrack for Chariots of the Gods?
Movie soundtrack for Chariots of the Gods?
Movie soundtrack for Chariots of the Gods?
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Richard Littler
Richard Littler
@Richard_Littler@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

When I moved to Switzerland, I discovered he was a local. He built an 'ancient mysteries' theme park, which soon failed, but the buildings still stand. I took some photos a couple of years ago.

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Photo: a building in Daniken's Mysteries theme park
Photo: a building in Daniken's Mysteries theme park
Photo: a building in Daniken's Mysteries theme park
Photo: a building in Daniken's Mysteries theme park
Photo: a building in Daniken's Mysteries theme park
Photo: a building in Daniken's Mysteries theme park
Photo: a building in Daniken's Mysteries theme park
Photo: a building in Daniken's Mysteries theme park
Photo: a building in Daniken's Mysteries theme park
Photo: a building in Daniken's Mysteries theme park
Photo: a building in Daniken's Mysteries theme park
Photo: a building in Daniken's Mysteries theme park
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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@Richard_Littler For a while he was going to open another theme park, in Blackpool. (It dead-ended around 2014. I used it in one of my novels …)

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acb
acb
@acb@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@cstross @Richard_Littler There’s a Giger museum and café in Gruyères:

detail of a table and chairs in Giger’s biomechanical style
detail of a table and chairs in Giger’s biomechanical style
detail of a table and chairs in Giger’s biomechanical style
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Infoseepage
Infoseepage
@Infoseepage@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@cstross @Richard_Littler I'm imagining something like the Shandor building in the original Ghostbusters film, where the architecture makes it part of a summoning gateway.

It's a real building, too, though somewhat altered via film magic for the movie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/55_Central_Park_West

55 Central Park West - Wikipedia

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Richard Littler
Richard Littler
@Richard_Littler@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@cstross Now, that concept worked out *much* better.
My photos of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères...

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photo of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères
photo of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères
photo of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères
photo of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères
photo of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères
photo of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères
photo of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères
photo of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères
photo of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères
photo of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères
photo of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères
photo of the Giger-designed bar in Gruyères
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