@hipsterelectron show me im immune to propaganda
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@june nix is not the final stage of linux. it is intentionally designed to create a monopolistic structure and it is run by fascists https://cryptid.cafe/objects/55718385-fd29-4f3d-8aad-3ae42c0f724c
@hipsterelectron @june honestly this reads like @zzt ranting about nix and at first glance i thought the poster was talking about themself
@davidgerard @hipsterelectron @june you wouldn’t nix an OS
@hipsterelectron @june what about GNU Guix
linux isn't problem-less, but the way i've been able to just set and forget linux compared to windows which keeps finding new ways to break when i'm not looking, i swear lmao
@EeveeEuphoria @june ooo you're right that's the more general critique
but compared to windows? the only thing windows has going for it is guaranteed hardware compatibility. literally everything else is off the table, you're lucky if you go more than a few months with it *not* doing something that is literally unsearchable, and having to perform some unholy bullshit to fix
and that's when you're using normal-ass software, good luck if you want to run literally anything old, despite what microsoft promises for """backwards compatibility"""
@hipsterelectron @june Nix feels like it isn't Linux, but it's its own, closed, thing. you must do everything through nix, and the skills are basically locked in, learning nginx with nix doesn't mean you know nginx, it means you know nix
@freya @june a "language" which oh we can't allow you to be turing complete we don't trust you with that. oh also we don't have like a package manager for our language because you can't express anything worth making a reusable library for. congratulations, you have learned how to use a terrible system. now you can relentlessly neg everyone else about safety
@hipsterelectron @june just learn the fucking config format of your fucking applications holy shit. Nix is actually much more complicated than
port 22
PermitRootLogin prohibit-password
PasswordAuthentication no
and such
@hipsterelectron @june are you talking about Rust or Nix?
Well no Rust does have a package manager, but the same vibe seems to exist in the Nix and Rust community. a lot of very privileged folks who've likely never used a machine with less than 4GiB of ram in the last 10 years and don't care if their every action is built upon layers and layers of abstraction. The real fear I have with Nixi s, it doesn't teach you to use your applications, it teaches you to use a black box that might, or might not, configure your applications. you don't really know unless you dig into it, and Nix makes that really really fucking hard