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jonny (good kind)
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@jonny@neuromatch.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

What's the big deal about time's birthday, there's like 3 other whole dimensions, when do we celebrate space's birthday?

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jonny (good kind)
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@jonny@neuromatch.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

They tried to launder the merciless behavior of time by anthropomorphizing it as a dying old geezer transforming into a cute little baby on its birthday. So now if you express any negative Time sentiment people immediately just go "oh so you hate a cute changeling baby, OK,,,,"

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Heliograph
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@Heliograph@mastodon.au replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@jonny 😆 anthrotime oh lordy 🙈😹

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jonny (good kind)
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@jonny@neuromatch.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

What's the big deal about time's birthday, there's like 3 other whole dimensions, when do we celebrate space's birthday?

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Oliver Kurth
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@okurth@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@jonny Not when, but where is it celebrated?

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jonny (good kind)
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@jonny@neuromatch.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@okurth
Apparently survey markers
https://fosstodon.org/@wizzwizz4/115817530769246025

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jonny (good kind)
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@jonny@neuromatch.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

Is the equivalent of a temporal birthday in space a.... Monument? If you are going nearly the speed of light, do you cease having birthdays and need to just erect monuments to yourself?

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liferstate
liferstate
@liferstate@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@jonny As far as I can tell, this is the plot of 2001: A Space Odyssey.

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wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
@wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@jonny Yes to the first (I think), but no to the second: the time dimension has the opposite sign to space, which means there's always a proper time by which you can measure birthdays, no matter how fast you travel, because Lorentzian geometry.

And because relativity, what's time and what's space depends on your choice of coordinate system. It's like how some people say "we're stationary, but experience the Coriolis effect", and other people say "we're moving, on the surface of a spinny ball".

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wizzwizz4
wizzwizz4
@wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@jonny But I suppose that doesn't actually address your original question of "when do we celebrate space's birthday?", because every coordinate transformation has some component of the old time in the new time. You can't treat a pure spatial direction as a time direction, unless you're really close to a black hole or something.

If the answer really is "monuments", then I might suggest the geodetic trigs? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangulation_station

Triangulation station - Wikipedia

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jonny (good kind)
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@jonny@neuromatch.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@wizzwizz4
so New Years is Time's birthday but also a piece of temporal survey infrastructure

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