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Daniel Gultsch
Daniel Gultsch
@daniel@gultsch.social  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

I still find it a bit odd that Udbhav Tiwari and Meredith Whittaker ( @Mer__edith) stormed off the stage at #39C3 with ~20 minutes left in their slot without answering any questions. I always think of Chaos events as being among equals, and a Q&A after your presentation is just part of that. But I guess if you are earning close to $1 million a year, you are a bit more equal than others.

I’m wondering if this was prearranged with the organizers and/or the Herold in that session.

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Meredith Whittaker
Meredith Whittaker
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 39 minutes ago

@daniel It's true, I did think we were over time, when in fact we were not over time. But we definitely didn't storm off! We stayed around by the stage for about 15 minutes talking to nice people and answering questions. Then we hung out until late, and again the next day. Hope that helps!

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@pietervdvn@en.osm.town replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@daniel I bumped into Meredith twice after the talk and did a small, unplanned talk with her once. She was very approachable. I asked a question to her and got a selfie!

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@phil_nosec@social.cologne replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@daniel @Mer__edith I've been in the talk and didn't have the impression that they "stormed off". Just rewatched the last minute of the talk and Meredith clearly states that she at least thinks that there is no time left for a Q&A (I don't remember if this was in fact the case). She also states that both of them would stay for the rest of the congress and that one should come around and ask them if one were interested.

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Pluto
@pluto@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@daniel @Mer__edith wasn't in the talk and haven't watched it yet but did you consider having a bad day as an explanation?

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@link2xt@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@daniel I'm also a bit surprised that some speakers travel from another continent just for their talk and skip the opportunity to at least see what is there on the congress and talk to people there. But I also don't see anything wrong with anyone leaving whenever they want without stating the reasons, on the contrary demanding that they do because they have a talk or earn more than others is treating them as not equal.

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Daniel Gultsch
Daniel Gultsch
@daniel@gultsch.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@link2xt I've seen less experienced speakers simply run out of time and I've also seen people having a bad moment due to nervousness or whatever. Both are absolutely fine and are usually (always) treated with respect.

The president of Signal is a professional who is literally paid to be there (nothing wrong with that I pay myself too for giving presentations). Maybe we can hold them to slightly higher standards?

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@link2xt@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

As far as I understand both speakers are paid by Signal to represent Signal, not by CCC[V]. From CCC speakers get a ticket and access to speaker's desk room with tee and coffee, so if they make a low-quality presentation, that's Signal's problem.

I'll watch the talk recording to see if it's good or not. Have not attended any recorded talks this year, had enough unrecorded meetups, self-organized sessions and angel shifts in-between every day.

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Daniel Gultsch
Daniel Gultsch
@daniel@gultsch.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@link2xt I didn't want to imply that they are getting paid by CCC. I'm sorry if that came across like that. I meant that she is paid by Signal to publicly endorse Signal. That's her job.

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