I've finally switched to the @Vivaldi browser. I've been using Firefox for as long as I've been on the internet, but the focus on AI means it's no longer the browser for me. Thankfully unlike Chrome, Vivaldi supports the uBlock Origin extension which is the most important extension for being able to browse the web nowadays.
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@Gargron And unfortunately, unlike Firefox, there are major screen reader accessibility problems. I'd really love to switch to it, or something like it, but that makes it hard.
@Gargron Not sure how anyone can feel comfortable trusting a chromium-based browser :(
@Gargron @Vivaldi Before this news, I used Firefox on my phone as an additional browser for viewing sites, but after this news I immediately deleted it, because if I left, then I would have agreed with their artificial intelligence, but I just need a browser that accesses the Internet, and if I need ai, I’ll just go to the official website, I don’t need it in my browser, put in a calculator, messenger, crypto wallet, and maybe even a whole system like firefox os wow, this is some kind 😳
@Gargron I removed Firefox some time ago on my phone and Chromebook. The only instance is my personal laptop and if they put the AI slop there and nuke my using uBlock then I will remove it there too. The work machine will also have it removed too. I have been using Vivaldi for some time and I like it. All I want is a browser that renders pages, quickly and securely.
@Gargron I've been giving #Helium a test run for several days now and I like it a lot. Yeah, it's Chromium based too, but I've tried the Firefox forks and something about each of them was a turn off for me. I just want a web browser that gets out of my way and doesn't try to force me into some new workflow paradigm or make me jump through a bunch of hoops and tacked-on settings to make the web work like it's supposed to. Helium seems like that so far and, until something better comes along, may end up my daily driver. If you're not turned off by the Chromium base, it might be worth a look if that's what you want out of a browser, too.
@Gargron LibreWolf is a good fork of FireFox and has a strong anti-AI stance. They acknowledge that some might slip through, but let them know and it'll be removed. I run Vivaldi and LibreWolf since there are still sites that work on one but not the other. I'm a big fan of FF/LW containers to separate work, banking etc. Good for parking Google things so most things are done "logged out" but can still use their services when you want.
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I spontanously changed from #Firefox to @librewolf yesterday. Took like half an hour of time.
Bye AI crap 🚮
Wonder what this means for @privacyguides recommendations on web browsers other than chrome and Firefox
@Gargron I think the problem is somewhat exaggerated until we see actual negative actions from Mozilla.
@Gargron @Vivaldi That seems like a step backwards to be very honest. Firefox is a truly open-source project, with its own nuts and bolts under the hood, whereas Vivaldi is just another Chromium fork with a bunch of proprietary bits strapped to it.
I don't agree with the choices from Mozilla, but if everything is opt-in, local, and respects user privacy, what is the problem? And if it does bother you, why not use something like LibeWolf?
