@Daojoan If there is a lesson to be had from the zeitgeist post emergency phase of the Covid pandemic, it is that the status quo and the conformity demanded by the richest and most extroiverted people is all that matters and any differences are not to be tolerated. It makes me think a lot of how things went down after the late 60s hippies floated a different way of life, then put on suits and got with the coporate to fit in.

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The early bird gets the worm
The night owl gets the mouse

@Daojoan It comes back to the fact that a majority of these management consultants and life coaches are just recycling stuff that sounds good but is mainly recycled BS. What a rich person dies with his day is totally irrelevant. The secret is to discover how they got rich. Which will have nothing to do with their life style but will be the source of their wealth which will be either inheritance, privilege or opportunity.

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Exactly — it’s just a random piece of advice. It doesn’t make sense to fixate on the time. If anything, wake up half an hour earlier to go over your whole day, check the key steps, and have backup plans ready if needed. Something like that.
And of course, the right time depends entirely on your schedule.
Wake up at five just to drag yourself to the office dead tired? That’s crazy.

I'd wake up at 5am if I had a home to wake up to. Displacement teaches you to find productivity in chaos, not a schedule.

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All those details of advice just distract from the root issue:

You're not productive if you're not passionate.
You're not passionate if you don't believe in the purpose of your doing.

Once you become passionate, you'll stand up at the appropriate time and stay energized throughout the day. It'll happen on its own.

You can't just copy the day schedule of passionate people. That's nonsense.

Find your purpose. Find your true desire.

@Daojoan There is a similar principle in play for adjusting your eating habits.

@Daojoan or that requires you to be a person you CANNOT be even if your body would cooperate with it in the absence of other responsibilities. A lot of productivity advice appears to be written by dudes who have fairly flexible jobs and a wife taking care of life logistics. You’re probably not getting up at 5am if you’re responsible for picking kid up from band practice after 9pm. I wasn’t getting up at 5am when I had two jobs, the second of which was an evening shift that finished around 10:30pm

@Daojoan I want to see those early morning go-getters challenged to produce a coherent sentence past 9pm

"Sorry, our hustle culture doesn't allow us to handle things right now as we need to go sleepybobos so we can continue crushing it at 4:35am after a half marathon"