@shanselman sounds like something I'd do lol the I'd blame the stable, beginner friendly distro I'm using: Arch (/j, I'm using mint and wanna dual boot the 2)

@shanselman @drahardja 640 mice should be enough for anyone.

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I so feel you. I had something similar once with a port-forward to an external service. Every time I logged in and touched anything I got logged out.

First I started to try and click very fast. Then I started to look at the networking. Then, after hours it clicked and I realized I was logged in to another instance of this service and my browser got confused with the cookies and the stored tokens in them.

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Wired hardware for the win

@shanselman kinda impressive you switched exactly each time 😂

@shanselman 😭 😭 😂

@shanselman That's why I don't trust information in bug reports

@shanselman Thank you for the boost after some particularly frustrating debugging sessions with "ah fuck of-course!" conclusions ;)

@shanselman et tu human?

@shanselman 🤣 that could have been me...

@shanselman I laughed out loud

@shanselman There is a reason all my Bluetooth mouse’s are different colors intentionally.
Time to get out the sharpie and label them ;)

That said, myself and several around me this week have had those moments where it was the simple thing that was wrong, and we just had to step back, or ask for another set of eyes, and it became obvious. It happens to all of us, especially us grey hairs.

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Just the other say, I went down the path of debugging and reinstalling my reverse proxy, reinstalling certs, clearing firewall rules, reinstalling server packages... Then noticed I forgot to create a directory.

We are all too often our own worst enemies.

I mean, the service could have been more clear with the error message, so it really felt like a network issue and not a missing directory.

@shanselman That’s a long post for saying that you’re not using mac OS.

@shanselman "pebkac"

@shanselman cable beats Bluetooth, again. ;-)

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Reminds me, a customer's "touchpad broken, clicking doesn't work as if it was stuck".

I tried everything on the laptop I could think of, putting my Linux knowhow to good use. Nothing helped, I said sorry and let's monitor a bit and then send a service request to Lenovo for a likely broken hardware.

A few hours later I got a call that they had found a turned on mouse from a bag, a button pressed to the wall of the bag. It was Uniifying receiver, Solaar not installed, didn't realize.

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@shanselman I'm sorry but I'll have to disagree there. Why the heck isn't your laptop capable of remembering two Bluetooth mice, and using whichever one is present at the moment?
The de-pairing is the problem. Not you.

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Hugs.

@shanselman 😂
Did you stole the other mouse from someone else ?

@shanselman Problem was not between keyboard and chair. Problem was behind or under the chair, in the backpack: the secret second mouse.

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Lesson learned:

If you ignore a problem long enough, it will go away.

(The battery from the other mouse would have eventually died.)

😉😊

@shanselman But... even if they're identical, they still have different BDA/BMAC and as such should be able to stay paired, both of them?

Funny still though 😆

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So, it was a layer 8 issue then...

@shanselman that's a benefit of colorful stuff. You can have two mechanically identical item but one is grape purple and the other is lime green and there is no way you mix up the two

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@shanselman @SRDas Technician, repair thyself.

@shanselman I once had 3 computers controlled from 3 keyboards & mice on my desktop. After much swearing and self induced confusion I used a bright yellow paint pen from my local Daiso to write "Desktop", "Laptop" & "RPi" as appropriate on them.

@shanselman Hate that.

@shanselman 😳

@shanselman That would be me. I can't begin to deny it. It would happen.

@shanselman It’s not me. There’s no way it’s me. It was me.

@shanselman @alice This toot sparked a bucket full of kerosene anger in my brain. I’ve done this exact thing so many times in so many different contexts and it ALWAYS sucks

@shanselman I feel terrible for you Scott, but this story has filled my heart with joy, so your sacrifice wasn't in vain

@shanselman tell em 2 share ;)

@shanselman This could totally be me, as I have multiple Logitech M720 3-device mice that can work with dongles or Bluetooth. One is for my home use, the other for my road use, because I loathe trackpads. I only use Bluetooth when attaching to my iPhone or iPad, though. For my desktops and laptops, I use the dongles.

@shanselman but now you know and you can label the two with a sticker or something.

@shanselman PEBKAC meets PEBBAM

@shanselman Thank you for sharing this!

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🤣🤣 I've been so angry at Bluetooth for that reason. Maybe it's also me

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aaah m)

@shanselman PBCAM

@shanselman this post has a better twist than most Shyamalan movies.

@shanselman I don’t know which would be more frustrating: realizing this means culpa or that I had been carrying an extra mouse everywhere for who knows how long

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@shanselman I have also done this. I hated myself so much...

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Good debugging. The fix is a Sharpie note on one.

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"I has met the enemy and they am I."

👀

@shanselman You figured it out in only 2 hours? That still sounds like a win, compared to some other personal equipment debugging sessions I've had.

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PEBKAC. the debugging nightmare we all fear. ;)