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@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

I feel this needs to be repeated 🍪

The annoyance of cookie banners
doesn't come from the regulations, but from the malicious compliance of the corporations who want to exploit your personal data.

No data-harvesting cookies = No banner.
Simple.

My websites have no cookie banners,
because they don't use any non-essential cookies and don't track visitors.

Yours shouldn't either.

#Privacy #Cookies #PrivacyLaw

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max oakland
@maxoakland@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 22 hours ago

@Em0nM4stodon true true true

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Jack Yan (甄爵恩)
@jackyan@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 22 hours ago

@Em0nM4stodon Thank you! As a publisher, we donʼt track, but we did have some ads from networks that tracked. I made a commitment to our readers (not that any asked for this) that we would be tracker-free this year. I wrote to the ad networks to see if any would go along with this and got zero replies. So we removed all their ads. Now we just have ones we run ourselves with no trackers. Didnʼt seem particularly hard to do and I wish more would.

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The Nexus of Privacy
@thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 22 hours ago

@Em0nM4stodon exactly. Their goal is to induce “consent fatigue” (and yes that’s the term they use) so that people just say yes and blame the regulation for making the experience annoying. It is annoying, but only because they’ve chosen to make it that way!

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Ray McCarthy
@raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp 23 hours ago

@Em0nM4stodon
What's worse is the ones that say we won't let you refuse any unless you pay.

Then of course they still track you.

Never put the "sample" code for a typical social media icon on your site. It's a malicious tracker.

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Marsh Ray
@marshray@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 23 hours ago

@Em0nM4stodon As soon as you add a “select your preferred language”, region, popup, user login, display preference, dynamic scrolling position, anything, you’ll have browser side state. The *vast* majority of websites have at least one of these features.

The privacy invading tracking is horrible and off the rails too of course.

But even if they didn’t do any of that, sites would still be advised by lawyers that they had to put up consent banners. It’s just too easy for any web designer working a ticket to add some little code library and end up creating a huge liability for the company.

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Demiurg
@demiurg@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 24 hours ago

@Em0nM4stodon How about just regulating that browsers only may store essential cookies as a default setting? It was and is a total mistake to let a regular user decide on this.

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A_Minion
@A_Minion@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 24 hours ago

@Em0nM4stodon || When I run it's a site that has any mandatory cookies I mark it and leave never to return. If they choose to offer to share the $ they are making I'll talk about (I have yet to find a site making that offer). I have yet to seek info that I couldn't find on cookie-less site so far. If enough of us quit using sites demanding cookies I figure that sooner or later they will get the hint. I tell all the people I know not to accept cookies of any kind. Peace

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Sylvia Osteen
@sylviaosteen@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@Em0nM4stodon I just realised that clicking on the cookie banner allows them to set another cookie that remembers that you have fingers.

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Morgan ⚧️
@raphaelmorgan@disabled.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@Em0nM4stodon wait, so do login and cart cookies not require a banner then? I guess that makes sense, since no one is logging in with the expectation of not having an account or adding things to their cart with the expectation of not being able to buy them lol

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thecasualcritic
@thecasualcritic@writing.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@Em0nM4stodon stupid question from a non-expert, but where do analytics fit into this? Not the "we want to analyse what you're buying" kind but the "how do you use our site" kind. Because I've noticed even government sites use the banner and presumably they don't sell your data.

I'm tangentially involved with building a public sector web portal, and we would like to understand if and where users struggle with the service. Or is that not done with cookies and/or would those class as essential?

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Rage Against The AI
@akaetis@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@Em0nM4stodon
I totally agree. I build websites. No tracking. No banner. And my users are happy with their websites.

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Manic Pixie Dream Gremlin
@gildilinie@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@Em0nM4stodon nice humble brag. i could have websites too. if i wanted

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Private private
@privateblack@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@Em0nM4stodon I agreed

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Nazo
@nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@Em0nM4stodon This really doesn't get said enough. The only reason they have cookie banners is because they want to harvest data. All they have to do is not harvest data and then no need for cookie banners...

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Chilly :donor: 🛡️ :fedora:
@chillybot@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@Em0nM4stodon
I love seeing "We care about your experience" and "We care about your privacy". When one is blocking you from seeing their site because $$$4 and the other they only did because they were legally required to

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