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Veronica Explains
@vkc@linuxmom.net  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

I wish they just made a browser, and not bullshit.

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/

Introducing AI, the Firefox way: A look at what we’re working on and how you can help shape it

We recently shared how we are approaching AI in Firefox — with user choice and openness as our guiding principles. That’s because we believe AI should
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Joe (TBA) 🇺🇸
@RegGuy@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@vkc Firefox was my browser for years. Then a few years ago they kept breaking stuff and making it more like every other mainstream browser.

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António Manuel Dias
@ammdias@masto.pt replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@vkc

I remember when they made Firefox out of the Mozilla suite to have a lean, unbloated browser.

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Jeremiah Lee
@Jeremiah@alpaca.gold replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@vkc I wish Mozilla explained what an "AI window" actually will be.

I don't have concerns so far with Firefox using local ML models for language translation, alt text generation, tab group name suggestions, and link preview summary features.

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Amro has been
@amro@todon.nl replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@vkc Me too, Veronica. Me too

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Patrick Schmitz
@schmitzel76@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@vkc this was the reason for me to make waterfox my default browser.

If they want to put AI in the browser, they should make it an extension.

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might_be_a_robot :sterntastatur: :gopnik_implant:
@BustaMarx@corteximplant.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@vkc "Feature parody."

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Golden Bunny of Destiny 🕯🇺🇦🇵🇸
@davew@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@vkc The more I see of the decline and fall of Firefox, the happier I am to have switched to @Vivaldi

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pepperouni kenshin
@superviviansunshine@jorts.horse replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@vkc what I don't get is, none of their customers want this. if we were trend-followers we'd be using Chrome or edge. I haven't seen a company misread what their customers want this badly since Nintendo

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Irina
@irina@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@vkc Yes. That.

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Buck
@buck@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@vkc I want NO AI in my browser.
PERIOD.

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四
@yon@sakurajima.moe replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@vkc AI dislike apart, here’s the kicker. I’m not paying a cent for any of it. What is their end game here? Stealing more of our data? Serving us propaganda they get paid for?

I’m with you, I just want a browser.

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Colin McMillen
@colin_mcmillen@piaille.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@vkc They're asking for feedback over there, if you're interested. I left some feedback. A lot of people did.

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/building-ai-the-firefox-way-shaping-what-s-next-together/td-p/109922

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Don Marti
@dmarti@federate.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@vkc You need a safe work environment to do real innovation. An "inefficient" bureaucracy like Bell Labs or the University of Helsinki will produce new stuff. A company run in "hardcore" mode will motivate everyone to get the same, safe, popular choices on their resume, to be better squared away for when the Layoff Fairy leaves an HR meeting invitation under their pillow

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Veronica Explains
@vkc@linuxmom.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

I promise when I reboot the Mozilla brand after their inevitable collapse, we'll kick all the so-called "AI" to the curb.

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:projetstodon: Shalien
@shalien@mastodon.projetretro.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@vkc Mozilla ? You mean Netscape ?

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Veronica Explains
@vkc@linuxmom.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

The kids hate so-called "AI". They make fun of it. "That's AI" means "that's BS."

It's all such a waste. So much potential from Mozilla, squandered year after year.

They could have been the heroes.

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Rage Rumbles 🏴‍☠️ 🏳️‍🌈
@Black_Flag@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@vkc There are no heroes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgzDQwWygAc

The Stranglers - No More Heroes • TopPop
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Paul L
@prlzx@hostux.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@vkc
When I hear PR talk about AI I can't help but be reminded of the hype around 3D televisions or Second Life. For a while it was hard to avoid breathless articles about them and companies feeling obliged to have a presence even if for no obvious benefit.

And both still exist but they aren't being endlessly shoehorned into products.

I wonder if/when the bubble will burst or if it will be superseded.

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River City Random ☑️
@rivercityrandom@bitbang.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@prlzx @vkc yep, and I'm still waiting for those jpegs of ugly cartoon monkeys people paid so much money for back in 2021 to finally pay off :D

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Veronica Explains
@vkc@linuxmom.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@rivercityrandom @prlzx what are you talking about, I made a trillion zoomba bucks from my jpeg collection! /s

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might_be_a_robot :sterntastatur: :gopnik_implant:
@BustaMarx@corteximplant.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@vkc My granddaughter and her schoolmates say that all the time. She's eight.
If eight-year-olds know it's trash boosters have no excuse.

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Reg Braithwaite 🍓
@raganwald@social.bau-ha.us replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@vkc (Fondly remembering when "That looks 'shopped" was the insult of its age)

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@transicorn@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@vkc Thankfully #Librewolf keeps removing the things we don't want from #Mozilla in their #Firefox fork.

https://librewolf.net/

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Santiago
@santiago@mastodon.uy replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@vkc They also appear to have generated a very accurate sense of whats IA made. Thinks i cannot notice, my kids say very confidently, thats AI dad.

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Diane
@alienghic@timeloop.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@vkc

I want Mozilla Foundation to be organized like the Python Software Foundation where there's an achievable donation level that lets you vote for the board of directors.

Then we could vote for board members that could fire the AI cultists currently running Mozilla.

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kralcttam ☕️
@kralcttam@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@vkc My kid said this last night, watching a Michael Jackson live performance of “Smooth Criminal.” “That’s AI-“ meaning it’s fake, there’s a trick, it’s special effects.

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Veronica Explains
@vkc@linuxmom.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@kralcttam yeah, I've heard it more and more from the youth around me. "That's AI" means "that's fake". It's dismissive.

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kralcttam ☕️
@kralcttam@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@vkc That's it. So it's in Minnesota and Georgia. Probably nationwide.

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sohrobby
@sohrobby@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@vkc I'm cool with them offering things besides a browser but they never make anything I want. Give me privacy-focused email, calendar and messaging!

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