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@julian@activitypub.space  ·  activity timestamp last week

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Minutes from 6 November 2025 WG Meeting

Apologies in advance if I misrepresented anybody or missed any crucial bits of information.


  • Julian (myself) and Ted ( @tallted@mastodon.social) began the session discussing moderation tools in USENET
    • There are comparable systems to how the threadiverse propagates content. Messages are sent to a remote server who is then responsible for distribution.
    • In relation to moderation, there was more ambiguity.

Apologies in advance if I misrepresented anybody or missed any crucial bits of information.


  • Julian (myself) and Ted ( @tallted@mastodon.social) began the session discussing moderation tools in USENET
    • There are comparable systems to how the threadiverse propagates content. Messages are sent to a remote server who is then responsible for distribution.
    • In relation to moderation, there was more ambiguity. Local users could set up their own kill file but whether moderation could be done from the remote server was not discussed.
  • We discuss more about actions done to contexts (aka topics, threads)
    • Ted recommends a read through RFCs 2821 (SMTP) and 2822 (Internet Message Format)
    • Dmitri ( @dmitri@social.coop) joins at or before this point, and points out that there continues to be confusion over the context property and @context.
  • Example actions are offered: Removing a context from an audience, and locking a context from new contributions
    • Re: crossposting, Ted discusses the need for implementor changes to allow for contexts to be a part of multiple audiences
    • ed: much of the discussion at this point shifts away from ForumWG terminology and toward email nomenclature for ease of understanding. ForumWG nomenclature is used for these minutes
    • Dmitri points out that a breaking change to AP might be needed in order to break apart header (addressing/recipients) and body
    • Julian asks why, and Dmitri mentions signing difficulties wrt bto and bcc.
    • Julian asks if anybody uses bto and bcc, and Dmitri says "yes, absolutely", and said we should check out @darius@friend.camp's Fediverse Observatory for the answer
  • Julian says that as currently implemented, resolvable contexts do not necessarily need to be inherited. Lemmy explicitly does not want to inherit contexts, and their published contexts always refer to a local representation (ping @nutomic)
    • Julian steps through an example. NodeBB A federates context /topic/1, NodeBB B receives the topic and assigns it /topic/4bdffa. A later Removes the context. B doesn't know what A/topic/1 is so needs to resolve it, get its' root post, and see if it matches any know context on B, then act on it.
    • Ted and Dmitri caution that this is difficult and messy, and strongly recommend that the root-level context must be inherited
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julian
@julian@activitypub.space replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

Re: Minutes from 6 November 2025 WG Meeting

@trwnh@mastodon.social ForumWG moving toward recommending that the root node's context MUST be inherited is not incompatible with 7888 per se, but 7888 does allow for creating your own context.

I think this might be a blessing in disguise. In situations where the root node doesn't contain a context at all, then creating your own context has its place. I am not sure how this would work when you try to do moderation actions against a context that isn't really yours though.

I'm discussing this with @jesseplusplus@mastodon.social right now.

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sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

Seems like the conclusion is missing

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