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Stefano Marinelli
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 24 hours ago

I'm running some tests on my old and trusted Raspberry Pi A+.
I've installed Raspbian - latest release, lite version. At the prompt, it's using 92 MB of RAM, mainly due to systemd and NetworkManager. As soon as you use it (even just for apt), it starts swapping and becomes almost unusable. It took 5 minutes just to install Python.

I tried NetBSD (on the same memory card): 35 MB of RAM used (including Postfix!) and it's totally usable.

#RunBSD #NetBSD #Raspbian #Linux #Debian

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Simon Brooke
@simon_brooke@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@stefano My first UNIX ARM machine ran BSD in 16Mb of RAM perfectly well, with OSF/Motif on top. A lovely machine; I really enjoyed it. And that's only 37 years ago.

https://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/docs/Mags/PCW/PCW_Aug90_R260.pdf

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Nazo
@nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 21 hours ago

@stefano I wonder if zramswap along with adjusting to less video memory would help any.

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Mike [SEC=OFFICIAL]
@mike@social.chinwag.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 21 hours ago

@stefano can confirm NetBSD makes for a great Raspberry Pi model A setup!

https://social.chinwag.org/@mike/112589494524739713

Reminds me, I need to find out where I left that code to drive an LCD panel from it so I can finish my build. It's only been on the to-do list for about 18 months now.

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Jona Joachim
@jaj@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 21 hours ago

@stefano It's really painful. Alpine Linux is nice for this hardware though

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Stefano Marinelli
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 21 hours ago

@jaj yes, Alpine is great on small devices

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Pink Panther
@pinkopanterata@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 23 hours ago

@stefano This story always brings me back to this site

https://www.luke.maurits.id.au/writing/why-i-use-netbsd.html

Why I use NetBSD

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Maddie’s All Sorted
@maddiefuzz@masto.hackers.town replied  ·  activity timestamp 23 hours ago

@pinkopanterata @stefano I run NetBSD on a Pentium II with 192MB of RAM and while it can be a bit slow to install packages, it’s quite usable.

NetBSD is the best 💕

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ProprieteDuSage
@proprietedusage@eldritch.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 23 hours ago

@stefano try zram-config, you may spare some swapping.
My raspberrypi pi b+'s cpu was at 100% on apt update/upgrade

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anparker
@anparker@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 24 hours ago

@stefano Every time I fresh install FreeBSD, I run `ps ax` to enjoy how noting is running. :)

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Glitzersachen
@glitzersachen@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 23 hours ago

@anparker @stefano

This is great. I think I need to run a netbsd on a Pi zero ...

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Etua
@etua_en@ieji.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 24 hours ago

@stefano You answered the question I didn't know I had, thanks.

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