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Gabriele Svelto
@gabrielesvelto@mas.to  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

This is neat! This is basically pumped-storage hydroelectricity but using the difference in salt density between different layers of sea water instead of differences in height.

https://sizableenergy.com/news/2l26pidy71-sizable-energy-raises-8-million-to-launc

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Sizable Energy Raises $8 Million to Launch Ocean-Based Energy Storage

Rigorous tests confirm offshore pumped hydro system can operate reliably in harsh ocean environments ahead of pilot in the Mediterranean Sea

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Marius Gundersen
@gundersen@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@gabrielesvelto fascinating. I wonder what the sea water density difference is? I guess you can only extract energy from the difference in weight of the water. On land a 1m³ of water weighs 1000kg, which determines how much energy can be extracted from that water. But how much does 1m³ of brine weigh? Since it displaces water at the surface, it's only the difference in weight that can be used for producing energy? Unless it's pumped up above the surface, where it would displace air.

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Marius Gundersen
@gundersen@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@gabrielesvelto now I'm wondering if instead you could use osmotic pressure as a storage of energy. When there is excess electricity reverse osmosis is used to extract fresh water from sea water, and when electricity is needed osmosis is used to generate a pressure. Not sure if that would be more efficient though

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Bruce Elrick
@virtuous_sloth@cosocial.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@gabrielesvelto
It would be nice to have a Wikipedia-style description of the system, either the research-scale one or the envisioned one.

My first question is how is the reservoir constructed. Land-based solutions use natural basins (w/ the downside of submerging land that has not previously been under water). It is limited in potential energy by reservoir size and drainage height.

Contrasting, this substitutes much larger reservoirs, much larger heights, but only density differentials.

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Bruce Elrick
@virtuous_sloth@cosocial.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@gabrielesvelto Really interesting idea but would love to see actual details. I'm having difficulty imagining the containment method.

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