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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@rysiek@mstdn.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

Dems: Won't there be any new leader that would allow us to win elections? blobcatscared

AOC: Yes.
Mamdani: Hello.

Dems: No not like that. blobcatsweats

#USPol

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undead
@undead@masto.hackers.town replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@rysiek

"Moderate" Dems led by Schumer's strategy literally see that as career ending. Schumer bet on convincing Republicans to switch parties based on a "moderate big tent".

That means anything pulling to the left means the moderate pie gets smaller, mostly because that is the only strategic hammer in their tool chest. Schumer has no fallback plan, no pivot, no other goals other than betting Rs that are OK on abortion and gun control.

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FediThing 🏳️‍🌈
@FediThing@social.chinwag.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@undead @rysiek

Wonder if it's due to the electoral success of Bill Clinton and Tony Blair in the 1990s? They won elections by trying to stay in the middle politicially. This was easier back then as the gap between left and right mainstream parties was much smaller.

One could imagine this made an impression on the current generation of political leaders such as Schumer in the US and Starmer in the UK?

The problem is that it's not the 1990s, triangulating between the centre-left and fascism doesn't work at all. Fascists will just vote for fascists, and centre-left or left won't vote for those adjacent to fascists.

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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@rysiek@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@FediThing @undead yup!

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Yarn Dem0n
@c0debabe@masto.hackers.town replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@rysiek fuck. Put AOC and Mamdani on a ticket together and watch them sweep. They’re too chicken shit (Dem Leadership) but they(that ticket) would sweep.

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Quinn Norton
@quinn@social.circl.lu replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@rysiek ok but do you have any new blood over 67?

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Mensch, Marina
@energisch_@troet.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@rysiek are social people who aim for politics of fairness and human rights as well as prosperity and fair share for all ( #taxtherich) still a red flag in USA? After such an outrageous, destructive and hopelessly egoistical, greedy criminal in the White House, one would think you do need a very social, woke & fair acting person next. Just to repair all that damage done already by wannabeking Trump.

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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@rysiek@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@energisch_ racism is a powerful drug.

Remember, you're talking about a country where communities preferred to shut down and drain their swimming pools rather than desegregate them:
https://www.marketplace.org/story/2021/02/15/public-pools-used-to-be-everywhere-in-america-then-racism-shut-them-down

Public pools used to be everywhere in America. Then racism shut them down.

In her new book, “The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together,” Heather McGhee looks at how racism drained not only public pools, but also public support for universal healthcare and other “big government” policies.
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Mensch, Marina
@energisch_@troet.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@rysiek This hate came from hateful people. I am sure, with the right people in the limelights and on top of politics and economy and culture, this can be undone. It'll take time. And a lot of smarts and dedicated people. But it can be done! rainbowsheep blobcathearthug

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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@rysiek@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@energisch_ oh no doubt. This hate was manufactured. But it took hold, and now it is extremely difficult to undo. Because it requires the people who got hooked up on it to help dismantle it.

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strangefreeworld
@strangefreeworld@dmv.community replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@rysiek @energisch_ It also requires people who have the racism baked into their perceptions of life acknowledge they have been marinating in low-level racism their entire lives.

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