The podcast ends with Nguyen noting how everyone at the Charlie Kirk memorial left when Trump started talking (he was the final speaker). The conservatives were there to hear what Erika had to say, and her “forgiveness” of her husband’s killer brought the event to such a religious fervor—a perfect example of the best of “Western Civilization”—that when Trump began disagreeing with Erika and vowed retribution, the crowd tuned him out and headed for their cars.
The right’s disengagement and disappointment with Trump, and their hate for Big Tech (which Trump supports), may mean that this is the end of Trump’s power, and we may start to see support for him begin to wane. That doesn’t mean that Project 2025 comes to an end, but it may mean that its finest orator may have lost his silver tongue.
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