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activity timestamp 2 months ago

# What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the entire world?

A new blogpost, pondering on something which has bugged me a bit recently.

Not enough for me to make a fuss, but enough to be on my mind.

https://neilzone.co.uk/2025/09/what-if-i-dont-want-videos-of-my-hobby-time-available-to-the-entire-world/

#privacy #GDPR #hobby #blog

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happyborg
@happyborg@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil
I've read the replies but not your blog.

I resent that my privacy is routinely violated by anyone and everyone - because -commercial anti-social media has blinded everyone to its creating a place of no-privacy for reasons of profit and control.

I turn my face away from passers-by who want to photograph or video me as part of their 'day out', because I expect that content to be made available *globally* without a thought for me. Soon
#UKLabour will make live face recognition compulsory.

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Simon :donor:
@staustellsimon@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil love the last bullet point, very important

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@bloor@bloor.tw replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil What is your view about dashcam footage being published to youtube? I oddly watch quite a few of these; no idea why. I think it's mostly about recognising places - the other day I was watching one and I saw both Sevenoaks and Bracknell in one video.

Anyway...

In the very vast majority of cases individuals won't be directly seen (faces). But that isn't to say an individual wouldn't be able to be "very probably" identified.

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Interpipes 💙
@interpipes@thx.gg replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil while they could take photos of you in a public place (which an airsoft range is very much /not/) that still does not give them the right to then redistribute (monetised or otherwise) that image of you. That is what a model release is for, and if they don't have one for everyone in their videos, they need, at the very least, to be making those people unidentifiable. I don't think this is contentious. Is it?

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Ben Tasker
@ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil This would bug me a little too.

I think something wearable, like the purple lanyard you mentioned would be a good trade-off as it allows for easy editing (compared to remembering faces and choices).

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Hedders
@hedders@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil I’ve always liked the way my archery club does it. When they want photos or videos of an event for the website, they ask for volunteers to be in them. Opt in rather than opt out.

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Coreworlder 🎲
@coreworlder@dice.camp replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil I’m lucky in that the hobbies I do which are similarly photogenic (laser-tag, free form LARPing, and Bridge Command) are organised by people who care about consent (and some include people with security clearances and/or Important jobs who are very aware of the optics of public photos with imitation firearms in them) so they all have systems in them that either require consent or have a clear opt-out mechanism.

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Coreworlder 🎲
@coreworlder@dice.camp replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Some consent methods that work for me:

Bridge Command: Ask first for photos, don’t take videos. The latter is more for spoilers I think and the number of people involved are small enough that asking is easy.

UKLTA LARP: Opt-out verbally at the start. With about 40 people at an event this is easy to keep track of.

UK Freeforms: Wear a yellow lanyard to opt out. Everyone wears a name badge to identify their characters in games so this is a very easy approach even with 150 people at an event.

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Troed Sångberg
@troed@swecyb.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil My new startup, which just got a $10M Series A from Blackrock, will solve this! We produce a piece of code that performs facial recognition on all photage captured on all digital equipment (government mandated to be used) and checks towards a centralized database if the person recognized has opted out of being included in published media or not.

We're thinking $19.95/year for the "exclude me" flag in the database. What do you think?

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AnneH
@annehargreaves@ioc.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@troed @neil Er, I think the concept here is upside down - many people don't want their image in a database in the first place, in particular in one held by a commercial entity (no offence meant - I'm sure your organisation would look after data resonsibly).

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Brett Sheffield (he/him)
@dentangle@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil I share your concern. It's tiresome to have to consider this sort of thing when you're trying to relax and enjoy yourself.

When Facebook became a thing, photos that included me (some taken well before FB existed) started being shared in public without consent. In the early 2000s most photos were still on film and we could reasonably expect that they would rarely be seen by anyone other than the photographer, not fed into a global surveillance and AI training system.

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Bruno Girin
@brunogirin@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil
I'm not sure it would be making a fuss to just ask "can I indicate if I don't want to be in the final video?" Others may be feeling the same as you and are only waiting for someone to broach the subject.

If you wear something unobtrusive that is clearly visible when reviewing footage, you're not taking anything from the game itself, you just ask to be cut out of the final edited and published version.

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@bloor@bloor.tw replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil I would also draw a quite major distinction between still photos and video. I think there is a lot more arguable invasion and involuntary disclosure in even a 30s/1min video than in the vast majority of still frames.

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@bloor@bloor.tw replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil It is interestingly why I am now quite enjoying the genre of street photo where the photographer actually asks the person if they'd mind being photographed, builds a rapport, then takes the shots.

Of course, in a way, this could be almost argued to be more invasive to some people, and I guess it's safe to assume non-good interactions never see the light of day (so how many were there?)

But it seems healthier than unposed/candid street photography which is/was more common.

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Hedders
@hedders@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@neil Yes, shooting people is somewhat frowned upon!

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