I'm going to leave the ability to quote my posts on for the time being. My hope is that the feature won't be misused. The fedi has been a largely polite and decent space in which to post - at least for me - so I want to see how it goes. Still, it's reassuring that I'm just a couple of clicks away from getting rid of it if I don't like it.
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With all the options allowing us to manage quoting, including retroactive on a per quoted, it will be interesting to see all the creativity and experimenting in the beginning, while we learn how to use it well.
@tsvenson @gabrielesvelto that's exactly correct. We hope that by having these options, were actually building in a disincentive for dunking. That is, if any dunk post can be made meaningless by withdrawing your quote, they look silly. Time will tell.
The goal is to make sure positive quotes(which are the majority) are not compromised.
Being able to remove post on a per quote is genius. The quote pattern on Twitter (I left before X) that annoyed me the most, where when it was used instead of reply. Sometimes had to click on the quoted umpteen times to get to the beginning. Then read backwards. Just because both wanted their say visible in their timeline.
I have a hunch your design will make it harder to be a "bad actor." I艅stead be made easier to spot, including making their acting "look silly."
@tsvenson @gabrielesvelto That's the hope. Too many people focus on the primary effect (quoting) and ONLY discuss that. There is too much yelling here. We feel the secondary effects (withdrawing a post from a quote) are equally impactful, but clearly harder to 'prove' in any meaningful way. Time will clearly tell.
But I do wish people would appreciate:
a) We're trying to help all communities
b) There is a balance to getting this right
c) We can tweak things as we learn more
Reach, as a number, is the devil in disguise that for too many still ranks as or near the "primary effect" they look for.
Wherever I can I turn off showing/seeing quantitative stats. That Mastodon is free from a lot of that, especially the number of views for posts, is one of the design choices I am very thankful for.
@tsvenson @gabrielesvelto I don't want to disagree with you, but I do want to understand your concern about reach better. You ARE on a social media platform. The whole point is to have people see your posts. That is, at a basic level, what "reach" means.
But if the point is that you don't want to encourage dopamine drip number counting, that's totally reasonable. I get that. I guess I'm trying to understand what you actually want to see.
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