While the law is argued in court, the distinction may not ultimately matter much to its customers. “Pragmatically, I think for the retail individual, they don’t see a difference,” said Andrew Kim, a lawyer specializing in gaming law.
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While the law is argued in court, the distinction may not ultimately matter much to its customers. “Pragmatically, I think for the retail individual, they don’t see a difference,” said Andrew Kim, a lawyer specializing in gaming law.
@molly0xfff I’ve got a bad feeling about this..
Where there are huge bets, there are people fixing those. Where there are bets being fixed, there is usually the mafia.
Sooner of later one of these bets is going to be too big. Sooner of later these markets will start to corrupt world events themselves.
Criminals running more of the world is not an attractive bet we should be making.
@molly0xfff so glad someone is finally addressing this.
Billionaire Bill Ackman recently suggested Eric Adams should drop out of the NYC mayoral race and “fund his future” by first placing a Polymarket bet. This feels like it should be illegal. But is it?
@molly0xfff wierd, I thought it was clear it's just betting
Prediction markets began as strictly limited academic exercises to study whether financial markets might outperform polling and other forecasting. But some court wins and a much friendlier political climate have allowed these platforms to dramatically expand.
Prediction markets generally fall under the regulatory authority of the CFTC. Unlike the more retail-focused SEC, the CFTC has a different approach to trading on insider information.
But these markets have also butted up against other regulatory regimes, like gambling authorities. Kalshi in particular has argued in court that it is a trading platform, not a gambling site, although their advertising has invited customers to come “bet”.
@molly0xfff While I don't know exactly how these services work, they clearly look like parimutuel betting, also known as pool betting or the tote, where all bets are placed in a shared pool which is paid out to the winners. It's commonly used in horse and greyhound racing, and so it should be covered by most gambling laws.
Unlike the SEC, the CFTC’s mandate is centered on market integrity and preventing fraud or manipulation — not on consumer protection. Can its existing rules work for these retail-dominated platforms?
Other platforms that deal with outcome-based bets, like sportsbooks, have to impose strict monitoring against allowing athletes and others who could potentially influence outcomes from participating. Some prediction platforms do similar, but it’s not clear if it’s explicitly required.
@molly0xfff This feels like precisely the same thing as a boxer betting on his opponent and then throwing the fight lol
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