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David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

Whenever LibreOffice is mentioned, I have repeatedly seen driveby OnlyOffice boosters claiming it's perfectly compatible with MS Office and much more so than LO.

As far as I can tell, the entire basis for this claim is OnlyOffice using OOXML as its default file format and the company claiming that means perfect compatibility.

Of course, it does no such thing.

I know of no actual head to head comparative feature list, tests, example documents that work in OO but fail in LO, or something else substantive.

(The boosters always vanish in the wind when asked this.)

Does anyone else have something like this?

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Ω 🌍 Gus Posey
@Gustodon@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span davidgerard It's all anecdotal; in my experience, #LibreOffice has been infinitely more compatible and, rather importantly, more stable. I'm surprised you get any pushback at all.
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Orb 2069
@Orb2069@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span davidgerard

I pity the poor dumb son of a bitch that tries to use every feature of MSOffice, and would not be surprised if not even Microsoft has a gold standard reference document set - they've never struck me as the kind of company that's deeply interested in QA.

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David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span Orb2069 OOXML doesn't exist, there is only what MSO does

(the trick is that OOXML Transitional is a thin standard plus vendor extensions, and guess where MS has shoved every change from Office 2010 on)

(at least they document them, tho not how they're *supposed* to work, nor which ones actually don't work)

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Orb 2069
@Orb2069@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span davidgerard

I thought Larabel https://www.phoronix.com/news/LibreOffice-7.3 might have something in the test suite, but not as far as I can tell? He mainly just plates up the press releases and blog posts on this - not that I can blame him.

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Orb 2069
@Orb2069@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span davidgerard ...last I looked (a long, long goddamed time ago), Word Files were xml docs full of bizarre, HUGE psuesoenglish keys - eventually they started zipping the files?

But, yeah, the real "100% compatable" could be

- pixel-identical rendering at the same DPI
- for EVERY POSSIBLE FEATURE COMBINATION.

... Which would mean the reference doc would be hundreds of pages long....

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Orb 2069
@Orb2069@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span davidgerard
Page 428: superscripted bold italicized unicode in rotated tables without underlining.
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Sinjut
@sinjut@aus.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span davidgerard In my experience .docx documents display more accurately in OnlyOffice and WPS than LO. It would be better if people only created and shared .odt documents though!
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David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span sinjut which ones? what are you doing? do you have test docs? i have NEVER seen specifics on these claims and would be interested
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davecarter
@davecarter@mastodon.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span davidgerard @span sinjut I have a doc open right now that doesn't render properly in LO but does fine in OO
oo render - more or less correct
oo render - more or less correct
oo render - more or less correct
Libre office render - incorrect
Libre office render - incorrect
Libre office render - incorrect
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davecarter
@davecarter@mastodon.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span davidgerard @span sinjut something like this happens regularly enough, not just with word docs but with PowerPoints and Excel docs, that I now have both installed on my Mac - maybe it's different on PC?
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David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span sinjut like these should be trivially filable as bugs on LO for example
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David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span sinjut (I realise you're giving a subjective assessment, but I'm still interested in any specifics thank you!)
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Sinjut
@sinjut@aus.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago
@span davidgerard You'll only get my anecdotal experience... In an educational setting receiving varied documents with text, images, tables etc. I use LO myself but have OO on hand in case a document I receive is messed up. When I receive an .odt Christmas has come early.
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