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Tuta
@Tutanota@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

Hey @span protonprivacy it would be nice if you could update your website. Given that both of us fight for #privacy and #opensource, we must not use the same marketing tactics like Big Techs do.

Screenshot from Proton website, highlighted text: All Proton apps are open source

Question to Lumo with a more a honest answer:
Are all Proton apps open source? Please answer in one sentence.
Not all Proton apps are open source—while many core services like Proton Mail and Proton VPN have open-source components, some Proton applications remain proprietary.
Screenshot from Proton website, highlighted text: All Proton apps are open source Question to Lumo with a more a honest answer: Are all Proton apps open source? Please answer in one sentence. Not all Proton apps are open source—while many core services like Proton Mail and Proton VPN have open-source components, some Proton applications remain proprietary.
Screenshot from Proton website, highlighted text: All Proton apps are open source Question to Lumo with a more a honest answer: Are all Proton apps open source? Please answer in one sentence. Not all Proton apps are open source—while many core services like Proton Mail and Proton VPN have open-source components, some Proton applications remain proprietary.
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Michele
@thamichele@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy 😭badabing
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oxidand
@oxidand@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy

And Tutanota is talking about bullshit marketing? 😂
Take a look in the mirror first and check what you're posting on social media.

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DigitalDigger
@dadinek@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy Seems that Proton is again in the middle of a controversy https://cyberinsider.com/proton-suspended-journalist-accounts-citing-term-of-service-violations/
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Troed Sångberg
@troed@masto.sangberg.se replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota

Unfortunately #Proton chose to leave Mastodon since they more pushback here than on other platforms whenever they stepped outside of the image they portrayed. Thus they sadly won't see your apt post.

(I'm still a Proton Visionary customer though, but even as such they didn't want to admit to why they left the Fediverse)

@span protonprivacy

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adison verlice
@adisonverlice@tweesecake.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota hahahaha funny how you took a nag at them with their own chwatbot. quite hilarious
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Sunshine
@jahabof1794@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy I should really start running away from them. Ahhhh...I am still in the Proton bubble. blobcatsad
I target to be free of their services by end of 2025. I am subscribed until Dec. 2025.
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Leander Lindahl
@leanderlindahl@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy I'm a paying customer for both Tuta and Proton. Want to support Tuta hoping they improve. But they're not good enough right now compared to Proton which, while not being perfect, works for me in replacing US software.

Proton on the other hand keep showing up in unflattering stories a bit too often for my liking.

Hoping Tuta improves their UX and adds additional apps to form a "suite": password manager, cloud, VPN. Heck even cryptpad...

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Furbland's Very Cool Mastodon™
@GroupNebula563@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy proton killed off their fedi account ages ago, after everyone here (justifiably) got mad about the CEO saying some REALLY problematic right wing stuff. I would stay away from their stuff if I were you
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Goku
@GOKUSHRM@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy proton should remove tracker from Proton app... Open source and having tracker.. Damm...
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Maki
@RandamuMaki@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy So this toot means all of your products are 100% open sourced then?
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Michel 🇧🇷 :verified_coffee:
@michel@mastodon.bsd.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span stux @span protonprivacy please make the import tool available for the revolutionary tier :(
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ph00lt0 ➡️ Bornhack 🔜 WHY2025
@ph00lt0@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota can you just honestly STFU and mind your own business. Maybe you should spend your time and resources implementing WKD and PGP support instead of bitching on other companies in privacy space. Your social media behaviour is not helping the cause and rather sickening.
To your management: find someone else to manage your social media accounts.
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unruhe
@unruhe@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@Tutanota you're not getting a reply from @protonprivacy they left Mastodon.

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Zockbursche
@zockbursche@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota seriously? Is some AI chat your only source? Don't get me wrong, if this is true it's worth calling it out but you should put a little more effort in it.
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Tuta
@Tutanota@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span zockbursche It's not, Proton Calendar hasn't been updated since 2021 on GitHub: https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-calendar
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Skyper 💻🎧☕📖
@Skyper@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago
@span Tutanota @span zockbursche You really need to learn how to use a search engine: https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients

"This project is a monorepo hosting the Proton web clients. It includes the web applications, their dependencies & shared modules as well as all tooling surrounding development of the web clients (as well as some additional miscellaneous things)."

And then, three clicks later: https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients/tree/main/applications/calendar

Last commit was 8 hours ago.

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Sid
@seedd@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span zockbursche even their audit report for calendar is from 2021.

But from what I found online, all their web based code was moved to https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClients

Also, proton said in a reddit post 3 years ago, that calender is not open source. https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/vtu9sw/comment/ifbixmh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

2 years ago, they said this https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/17f76gi/comment/k73q7k1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

This is not expected from proton. It appears, that may have caught the big tech virus. Their revenue has grown a lot, they are launching new products fast.. sigh

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Pablo Majster :clippy:
@ppaluchowski64@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy Honestly, you're winning me over more and more blobcatnerd I use Proton Mail right now, but seeing how open and active you are - talking with people on the fediverse and replying to comments - really means a lot. Especially since Proton left Mastodon a few months ago mastodon

Your strong support for the FightChatControl campaign and your clear choice to stand up for privacy rights - instead of giving up and leaving the market if the law goes through - says a lot 🔐 I've always liked tools that focus on doing one thing well, not big all-in-one ecosystems, and it looks like your way fits me much better.

Thanks for staying true to your values 🙌 I really hope that never changes.

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Okuna
@Okuna@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy why don't you create some automatism, how to migrate from proton to you? I sure can do a lot of things manually, but something which supports me would be beneficial because I'm not a techie.
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zeroase :firefoxnew::zorin:
@zeroase@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy What's this about?
https://isitreallyfoss.com/projects/tuta/
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Okuna
@Okuna@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy I think Google, Apple and all others believe in the power of open source as well and particularly companies like Microsoft or Amazon who profit from open source hugely.
To believe in the power of open source does not mean that you do open source.
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DNKrupinski
@dnkrupinski@hannover.town replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy

»We're consolidating our social media presence due to limited resources and no longer posting on Mastodon. Follow us on Reddit for the latest updates: reddit.com/r/ProtonMail«

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Skyper 💻🎧☕📖
@Skyper@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy Seriously Tuta, you should know that LLMs hallucinate... 😩
Screenshot of a Proton Lumo chat where I asked "Are all Proton client apps open-source?". Lumo answered by stating that not all Proton client apps are open-source, in particular the iOS mobile apps. I then told Lumo that I could find all the source codes of all the iOS Proton mobile applications on GitHub, and I even included the links of the GitHub repositories. Lumo concluded that it made a mistake and that "This openness aligns with Proton’s commitment to transparency and privacy‑first development.".
Screenshot of a Proton Lumo chat where I asked "Are all Proton client apps open-source?". Lumo answered by stating that not all Proton client apps are open-source, in particular the iOS mobile apps. I then told Lumo that I could find all the source codes of all the iOS Proton mobile applications on GitHub, and I even included the links of the GitHub repositories. Lumo concluded that it made a mistake and that "This openness aligns with Proton’s commitment to transparency and privacy‑first development.".
Screenshot of a Proton Lumo chat where I asked "Are all Proton client apps open-source?". Lumo answered by stating that not all Proton client apps are open-source, in particular the iOS mobile apps. I then told Lumo that I could find all the source codes of all the iOS Proton mobile applications on GitHub, and I even included the links of the GitHub repositories. Lumo concluded that it made a mistake and that "This openness aligns with Proton’s commitment to transparency and privacy‑first development.".
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Tx1Rx2
@case2tv@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota Tuta, you should know that Proton left Mastodon. You should write them via Reddit. As far as I know, Reddit is also your main communication/Support channel.
@span protonprivacy
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Amir Khan
@amirbkhan@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota looks like Proton left Mastodon months ago…👎🏽 doubt they’ll see your message but thanks for pointing this out! 👍🏽
Screenshot of protons mastodon profile bio which stated they are no longer using the account and that we can find them on Reddit
Screenshot of protons mastodon profile bio which stated they are no longer using the account and that we can find them on Reddit
Screenshot of protons mastodon profile bio which stated they are no longer using the account and that we can find them on Reddit
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Alyx Tate
@alyx@menhera.space replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span Tutanota @span protonprivacy the CEO champions a fascist, remember? Perhaps you should realize how pointless this post is
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David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@span alyx @span Tutanota @span protonprivacy what if the point was to say it loud
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