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FFS. Now GritHub won't let me see the text in a text file without running their proprietary JavaScript, eg;

https://github.com/MariaDB/server/blob/main/COPYING

(Using LibreFox on Fedora GNU/Linux)

Why is any Open Source project still using this rapidly enshittifying monstrosity? There are dozens of community-hosted replacements, and if you have the skills or support from someone who does, you've even got the option of hosting your own;

https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/List_of_Community-Hosted_Code_Forge_Instances

#GitHub #enshittification

Martin Dougiamas

@martin@openedtech.social replied · 5 days ago

@strypey @julian I know you know this but to clarify for anyone who might not have realised: git is open source by Linus Torvalds and is beautiful, github.com is a site owned by Microsoft and is not necessary to use git at all.

GNU/翠星石

@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com replied · 4 days ago

@span martin @span strypey @span julian git is under this license; https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.en.html

Can you find "open" in it for me?

Strypey

@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied · 5 days ago

@span martin
> to clarify for anyone who might not have realised

Thanks for this. It surprises me that anyone doesn't know this yet, but I guess it shouldn't. Surely Free Code developers at least know this? But I'll keep it in mind for future posts where the target audience is the general public : )

@span julian

GNU/翠星石

@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com replied · 5 days ago

@span strypey If you add ?raw=true to the URL - sometimes github will actually send you the file.

The issue is that guessing the file path is often not easy, forcing you to git clone the whole lot.

Such projects are "open source" instead of free software for a reason.

OS-SCI

@os_sci@mastodon.social replied · 5 days ago

@span strypey Because they are used to it. It's for most people difficult to change. Why do foss communies use Discord or Reddit. Why Telegram?

Strypey

@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied · 5 days ago

@span os_sci
> Why do foss communies use Discord or Reddit. Why Telegram?

All equally good questions. Not only do these too have perfectly usable Free Code replacements, they're also decentralised.

For Discorpse/ Telegrim there's XMPP and Matrix apps, and public rooms can be made available via both (and IRC). For dReddit, there's Lemmy and PieFed, which federate over ActivityPub, making them part of the fediverse.

#Discord #Telegram #Reddit

OS-SCI

@os_sci@mastodon.social replied · 4 days ago

@span strypey i wrote a blog about this a couple of weeks ago. https://os-sci.com/blog/our-blog-posts-1/the-paradox-of-tough-image-software-114

Strypey

@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied · 3 days ago

"Telegram is popular among the open-source community for its strong encryption"

@os_sci

https://os-sci.com/blog/our-blog-posts-1/the-paradox-of-tough-image-software-114

Are you sure this paragraph was meant to say "Telegram"? AFAIK It's famous in software freedom circles, and especially among cryptographers, for its mostly-unusable, roll-your-own encryption;

https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2024/08/25/telegram-is-not-really-an-encrypted-messaging-app/

It's popular with technically illiterate contrarians, who think everything they say on there is encrypted (it mostly isn't).

Strypey

@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied · 3 days ago

Going back a bit;

"Reddit is adored by the open-source community for its numerous subreddits dedicated to open-source projects, programming, and tech discussions."

@span os_sci

https://os-sci.com/blog/our-blog-posts-1/the-paradox-of-tough-image-software-114

I guess it depends who you mean by "open-source community". It's certainly very popular with Redditors who like to talk about Open Source, GNU/Linux, etc. But I wouldn't necessarily conflate that with the dev and support communities producing the software they talk about.

HN and Lobste.rs, maybe.

Strypey

@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz replied · 3 days ago

"Discord ... serves as a hub for gaming communities."

@os_sci

https://os-sci.com/blog/our-blog-posts-1/the-paradox-of-tough-image-software-114

FYI if you want to avoid mentioning Matrix twice, Mumble is a fully Free Code voice and text chat system used by some gaming communities as a replacement for Discord/ TeamSpeak;

https://www.mumble.info/

... as is Revolt;

https://revolt.chat/

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Abhiseck Paira :gnuhead:

@redstarfish@freesoftwareextremist.com replied · 5 days ago

@span strypey I was talking about the issue at dino xmpp group chat one day, and some people were not even aware of the issue of non free javascript. So, I would say lack of awareness.

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