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Neil Brown
@neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk  ·  activity timestamp last week

If you rely on Proton's services, this makes for rather worrying reading.

https://theintercept.com/2025/09/12/proton-mail-journalist-accounts-suspended/

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James
@mack505@feistycricket.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago
@span neil I left them a year ago when they began pushing AI.

But then I drifted back. Don’t remember exactly why. I use the password manager and online storage a lot.

May be time to drift away again, at least for the email side. #Proton

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Kat the Leopardess
@Catwoman69y2k@yiff.life replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago
@span neil I remember trying to question the viability of ProtonMail for an earlier politically-related transgression. I was accused of sowing FUD and even ended up having to block another SWer bc they chose to act poorly in my mentions.

People's projection and spin are wild, man

Still wanna find some alternatives, esp related to working around/with the factor of US jurisdiction

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Mtor
@mtor@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week
@neil Proton keeps dropping the ball. This, plus the rollout of their AI for security has made me lose some faith in them. It might be time to find a new platform.
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Megalomaniac
@megalomaniac@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp last week
@neil ffs where the hell does one go now for proper privacy and security, if you don’t want to roll your own email.
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Klaus Frank
@agowa338@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week
@neil

@heiseonline Gibt es dazu auch etwas von eurer Seite?

https://theintercept.com/2025/09/12/proton-mail-journalist-accounts-suspended/

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House Panther :verified:
@housepanther@goblackcat.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week
@neil Disturbing but not shocking.
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Troed Sångberg
@troed@swecyb.com replied  ·  activity timestamp last week
@neil Indeed!

"Proton did not publicly specify which CERT had alerted them, and didn’t answer The Intercept’s request for the name of the specific CERT which had sent the alert. KrCERT also did not reply to The Intercept’s question about whether they were the CERT that had sent the alert to Proton."

To me it looks like KrCERT told Proton that "hackers" (the security researchers doing proper security disclosures) were using these email accounts - and Proton decided that it's enough that a CERT tells them an account is violating their ToS to be suspended.

That's clearly an extremely dangerous position to take.

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Troed Sångberg
@troed@swecyb.com replied  ·  activity timestamp last week
@neil Found Proton's statement in full on Lemmy which seems to mitigate a lot of the worries: https://fedia.io/m/privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com/t/2704480/Proton-Mail-Suspended-Journalist-Accounts-at-Request-of-Cybersecurity-Agency/comment/12304842#entry-comment-12304842
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Simon Zerafa
@simonzerafa@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp last week
@neil

Yes and No, If you followed their CEO controversy earlier this year.

Still I suspect this specific instance was a cockup rather than a conspiracy.

It's still not a good look for a business that claims the privacy high ground 🫤🤦‍♂️

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