What do you need most from WebKit (the rendering engine for Safari that runs your HTML, CSS, JS, and more)?
If you are making websites, what could we do in WebKit to make it easier for you to create fantastic experiences for your users?
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@jensimmons support for `break-after: avoid` please 🙏
Will massively improve multicol, EPUB ebooks and printed web.
@jensimmons Not sure if this is a WebKit or Safari issue, but CMD+Clicking a submit button with a formaction attribute that is in a form that POSTs opens a new tab with a GET request to the formaction attribute URL.
@jensimmons Fullscreen support in PWAs
@jensimmons For me it would be speculation rules, but unfortunately it didn’t make the cut at Interop this year. Maybe next time!
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Adding scrollable elements to the focus order would be great, so it works in all engines.
Adding scrollable elements to the focus order would be great, so it works in all engines.
@jensimmons I would really like to see support for locking screen rotation in Homescreen Web Apps with JavaScript.
@jensimmons@front-end.social3 even more:
1 Please add a button to invoke the responsive design mode to the ui. The keyboard shortcut alone is to "hidden" in my opinion.
2 Make the invokation of the bottom half console view more easy, when eg. in the elements tab. Currently one has to type something in the single visible repl line to open the lower console view.
3 Please improve the javascript error messages. There are still plenty javascript syntax errors that do not show up in the console at all.
@jensimmons please add a css only way to make an element "inert". "pointer-events: none" already does half of it, so an additional "keyboard-events: none" would be awesome 🤩
@jensimmons The Elements tab in Inspector gets very hard to see anything if the DOM tree is a little deep and I’m not using a big screen.
@jensimmons The 'replace' value of the 'text-autospace' property.
@jensimmonshttps://caniuse.com/filesystem – needed to deliver web-only apps with enhanced privacy that can still read and write files from and to a device who cloud storage
@jensimmons read this post from someone trying to test the declarative web push that it's only available in iOS https://github.com/pwa-builder/PWABuilder/issues/2434#issuecomment-3120335245
@jensimmons I would wish, that Apple contributes their WebRTC implementation for WebKit upstream to the Open Source project so that Gnome Web and other Free Software web browser would finally support WebRTC.
@bjoern @jensimmons GNOME Web has work in progress WebRTC implementation using gstreamer
Unlike a theoretical Apple upstreaming, the approach being taken allows for other GNOME apps to have WebRTC features as well, not just WebKitGTK
I.e. imagine native GNOME video calling apps
@jensimmons Support for the closedby attribute on dialog elements: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/Elements/dialog#closedby
@jensimmons Running CSS animations and transitions with more than 60 fps on screens that support higher frame rates by default
@jensimmons Web apps as powerful as native apps?
@jensimmons I'd love to take advantage of the "is" attribute for web components, it would enable great progressive enhancement for portable html content.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/Global_attributes/is
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- add support for `overflow-anchor`
- support for `:has-slotted`
- a API for DOM templating
- focus groups
- Reference Target API
- elementInternals.type
- Platform based windowing/virtualization
- Declarative Partial Updates https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/ShadowDOM/explainer.md
- CSS Anchor position is coming and is SOOO exciting
- commandfor
- [popover=hint]
@jensimmons I don’t know if this is a WebKit thing or not, but lately, camera and mic support is really flaky.
Trying to use google meet in safari is hard.
@jensimmons we build a Safari extension and it would be amazing if this bug/unexpected behavior was fixed: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291734
@jensimmons Support immersive-ar WebXR session on Apple Vision Pro! :)
@jensimmons Speculation rules support and support for the prefers-reduced-data media query.
@jensimmons I use Safari for 100% of my browsing. I have to use Firefox when editing WordPress sites because it refreshes properly (Safari is too aggressive with its local caching, I assume).
An employee of Cook/Jobs, @jensimmons, asks on a copylefted platform what she can do improve #WebKit.
The answer is simple: Comply with the LGPLv2.1. Participate with upstream projects rather than manipulating them so you can control them.
Employees of your company used to be forbidden from talking to FOSS communities. You've spent decades working against copyleft. But you now follow Microsoft's plan to “embrace, extend, & extinguish” #FOSS.
We see the game is afoot. Don't underestimate us.
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> What do you need most from WebKit
Build maps into HTML. But first please join our community and help hammer out the proposal.
I’m especially interested in features that have shipped, but aren’t complete. What would you like to see polished or expanded?
@jensimmons I'd like in-page search to also search <details> elements that are closed, and toggle them open. The same for Scroll to text fragment. <details> is really handy for making a compact UI, but making the closed elements invisible to search deters usage. See https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/114971504397806676
@jensimmons Import attributes: `with {type: 'css'}`
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Statements/import/with
@jensimmons I still miss the future that was promised by CSS Regions.
@jensimmons I once made bookmarklets that put the current page in a foreignObject with an SVG filter on top that did r,g,b=f(r,g,b), where different f had different 'buttons' on the bookmarkbar. This way I could change colors for reasons of contrast, taste, etc. Would that need https://caniuse.com/svg-html ?
@jensimmons hidden=until-found and ::marker `content` support in Safari, please.
@SaraSoueidan @jensimmons hidden=until-found is in the latest versions of Safari for macOS and iOS behind a feature flag; it’s listed as ‘testable’.
@jensimmons Finer grained control over reloading a page. Could be helpful during development (e.g.: please only refresh the CSS, don't run the onload page scripts. Or vice versa!)
@jensimmons Ability to pin and minimize tabs to their favicon within tab groups. This works for tabs not within tab groups.
@jensimmons interpolate-size would have been handy this week. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/interpolate-size
@jensimmons could we get a standardized / documented reader view, so we know how to adapt sites for it?
@jensimmons performance improvements would be the number one by a mile.
I can not scroll PRs on GitHub when they get long. And I don’t just mean that aren’t smooth. I mean it literally can not be done because it renders so slowly. And that’s on a M3 Max chip 😬
Yeah yeah, probably GitHub could and should improve the performance of the site too, but it scrolls butter smooth in other browsers.
I can not scroll PRs on GitHub when they get long. And I don’t just mean that aren’t smooth. I mean it literally can not be done because it renders so slowly. And that’s on a M3 Max chip 😬
Yeah yeah, probably GitHub could and should improve the performance of the site too, but it scrolls butter smooth in other browsers.
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share_target support so content can finally be sent directly to my PWAs.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web_apps/Manifest/Reference/share_target
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Full support for ::details-content pseudo for <details> that has Blink/Chromium style parity. In particular, I would love to finally show partial content without having to use JS to make it fully expand.
@jensimmons The navigation API would be great so see.
@jensimmons I know it's boring, but what I need most is to bring back support for CHIPS.
@jensimmons More debugging tools, with an option to live edit to test.
@jensimmons The inability to edit AdoptedStylesheets is one I encounter a lot in web inspector. It would be great to have that.
@jensimmons I would love the ability to attach a debugger from my IDE of choice, Nova (from Panic!), which can't due to sandboxing restrictions.
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