It's never too early to start thinking about ! @bkuhn @karen @lexelas @richardfontana @tmarble and I would like to submit a proposal for the " and Devroom" to @fosdem as soon as they open the CfP. Like last year we would like get feedback by you, our community:

* What did you especially like in 2025 fosdem.org/2025/schedule/track ?

* What would you like to see improved?

* What topics would you like to see in our devroom (permitted that we would be accepted again)?

@purpleidea I see this mainly as a similar process as for other projects. First you become a contributor, then after some time you build up a good working relationship and you might become a maintainer as well.

We want to enable people to participate in more parts of the process e.g. by this step of asking for feedback, our last year's call, we might also ask people to help with some other tasks at FOSDEM itself; which is always an opportunity to find new people for other parts of the project.

@kirschner Sounds like you're just assigning busy work to potentially good future leaders, and maybe some don't want to stick around for it? What changes have there been to the core team in the last many years? Maybe the process isn't working or someone is scaring newcomers off? I don't have have the information, you'd know more than me!

But for the conference I help run, we just add new people and that's that, there's no fealty or prerequisite tribute.

@purpleidea about the busy work: FOSDEM is run by many people. If you are "too important" to do some of the busy work, from my perspective you might be at the wrong place.

That's what I value about my co-organisers, each one of them helps to do the "door duty", running around with the microphone, reminding speakers about their slides, even though all of them have a huge amount of other work as well.

@purpleidea Alex and I joined the team some time ago, which worked out well from my perspective. We can talk about that next time I meet. Briefly: At #FOSDEM everyone can participate in the call for devrooms, and there are constantly new ones that compete with others.

I would not have committed to run a devroom, if I would not have known that we can run that effectively together. I would not have time to first have endless discussions about the direction, so I would have had to decline.

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