@GeePawHill I’ve posted about calling it Auschwitz, not Alcatraz.

For me, it’s not about creating a meme. It’s redirecting THEIR attempt at making Alligator Alcatraz cool, make it a meme. To me, calling it Auschwitz is an anti-meme — see this thing you are trying to make cool? It’s evil, as evil as what the Nazis did.

@GeePawHill @MrBirch exactly. Hard to see how making memes to say is truth is better than, well, saying the truth. The problem is, to say the truth, one has to be specific. And when one use memes, they doesn't have to be specific, they can always go "it's just a manner of saying that...". Plus, as far as Auschwitz is concerned, people take it for granted that everybody (including themselves) knows what it was bcse they know what it's called. Understanding is not innate. One has to study first.
@GeePawHill i feel like a big reason why it isn't being taken seriously is because Trump is rarely taken seriously. either people just make him into a meme or they outright fearmonger about him and there is 0 in between. he is a human being who is choosing to inact horrible horrible violence because Russia is paying him obscene amounts of money to. he's an incredibly horrible person choosing to do incredibly horrible things.

I'm told by some respondents that "alligator auschwitz" is better.

1) Why are you fucking meme-ing concentration camps?

2) Why you think everybody knows what Auschwitz was?

3) Why I spozed to think you know the difference between Auschwitz and, say, Theresienstadt? Why I spozed to think you know who even invented concentration camps?

I ain't lookin' to be clever and cool, and I am definitely not looking to be funny. I'm lookin' to tell the simple and plain truth.

@GeePawHill

I think there's a legitimate case here. See what you think:
1) a concentration camp is really being built, memes spread and persist effectively, so meme'ing the concentration camp is an effective way to counter the lie that the camp is a prison.
2) because of the scale of WW2. This may be a mistake. Perhaps too many people have forgotten.
3) doesn't matter. The popular knowledge is that Auschwitz was a concentration camp, and alliteration helps the meme. The Spanish invented CCs.

@GeePawHill
1) Trump and his gang are literal Nazis. They are building concentration camps. Is not a funny meme.
2) More or less than knowing what Alcatraz is? Some people aren’t going to know either.
3) A USan who doesn’t know about the Nazi death camps and genocides has been failed by the education system. Possibly intentionally.
@beckett 1) Not quite an answer. A non-funny meme is still a meme.

2) *Most* Americans aren't going to know either, I'll give you that.

3) Yes, definitely intentionally, and that is why a clever assonant meme is just more of the same, only on "our" "side" instead of "their" "side". Inevitably, when I pick up the enemy's weapons I become the new enemy.

@beckett @GeePawHill A concentration camp is a death camp. Trump and his goons at the ICE will kill a lot people. And it took 6 months to reach that point. We were at name calling for the past 25 years. We were at demonizing of trans people and they are now after other minorities. They started to falsify passports. They will put a lot of regime opponents into these camps. The US is no longer a trusted resource. They will lie about the victims, burn them and put them into unmarked graves.
@GeePawHill @beckett

Theresienstadt is/was a part of Auschwitz, and was also the name of a ghetto in Czechoslovakia, I think. This is Mastodon, not Twitter. Why do you suppose your audience is so ill-educated about the holocaust? I’m not in favor of giving a concentration camp a cute name, but when government officials are naming it Alligator Alcatraz, calling it out as Alligator Auschwitz seems apt.
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@GeePawHill true, however, as the proliferation of television made possible for the first time for Americans to see (and eventually oppose and stop) the Vietnam war, the proliferation of memes is helping spread awareness of fascism rising in America, and, I hope, they will contribute to stopping that spread. Memes are just units of ideation, packetized storytelling.. let them spread and educate, and punch Nazis!