Just had a tech support call with client, a long-time Apple fan/user. He asked why I'd jumped ship. I was happy to explain. But it left me wondering, how folk that think of themselves as progressive or remotely leftish justify to themselves staying with , , , etc.

Have you TRIED any or made an effort to explore a phased transition out of the trap you're in? Do you even recognize it as a trap? When was the last time you took a real look at

@dennyhenke @janeishly I have tried it over and over again. FOSS is just too bad UI/UX-wise and waaaaay too ugly for me. Bill Atkinson didn’t die to have his mid-eighties research being trampled on by engineers without a hint of aesthetic and functional know how. I want a computer that is a joy to use. I am Swiss, we have a long tradition of living in the midst of excellent design everywhere. No way I’m moving to the software equivalent of Russia.
@dgavin @janeishly
- My ethics prioritize my freedom over anything else. It's not a trivial concern. If you want a perfectly designed outer shell on the prison that restricts your freedom you can of course prioritize that.

- I strongly disagree that libre software or GNU/Linux is ugly or bad UI/UX. Your statement itself is sloppy and poor in design and function as it is overly simplistic. There are examples of ugly design and poor UX/UI on the various Apple platforms as well. I've used them.

@dennyhenke @janeishly My ethics don’t matter when a free DAM software can’t handle my 100’000 20+MP RAW photos in an efficient, fast and stable manner. When color calibration sucks.
I was a NextCloud admin for more than 10y. It was hell, the bugs and inconsistencies I had to deal with. The support that was necessary because of bad UX…
@dgavin
I'm going to remove @janeishly from future replies as she may not be interested.

You do you, you have your priorities and your use cases. My response was focused on your oversimplification. It's inaccurate and a disservice to the conversation and issue to lump the large ecosystem of free/libre software into a single bucket and declare it all ugly, lacking in design and function.

Nuance and details are important. A better understanding and conversation acknowledges complexity.

@peteriskrisjanis I think that's likely true in the vast majority of cases. Also, comfort. Rocking one's personal boat can feel risky and it does introduce a bit of friction, perhaps a lot of friction into a process that might otherwise be smooth thanks to years of learning.

And yet, sometimes our ethics deserve our full attention and action. Standing up for our ethics sometimes requires that we do these things regardless of the difficulties they may bring.

@peteriskrisjanis My approach has been to write about my recent experiences with my own transition from Apple to GNU/Linux. I'm going to outline a new series of posts from the perspective of someone that wants to begin slowly with a more gradual approach that allows for testing the waters more slowly without an initial commitment.

But in general, I think a more co-operative spirit of sharing from those of us that have made the switch could be helpful to those who are interested.