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Jan Penfrat
@ilumium@eupolicy.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

Hmmm, so #Google lobbyists claim "All apps on Android can be uninstalled" but from my testing on #Android 16 with all latest updates on a #Pixel this appears to be false.

Google's own #DMA compliance report from March 2025 says this is wrong:

"Android allows to uninstall apps by: (i) fully deleting apps that are downloaded or pre-installed in the user partition; and (ii) uninstalling apps in the system partition such that they are returned into an uninstalled state."

https://storage.googleapis.com/transparencyreport/report-downloads/pdf-report-bb_2024-3-7_2025-3-6_en_v1.pdf

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Jan Penfrat
@ilumium@eupolicy.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

Blah blah blah I'm gonna spare you the list of unsubstantiated bollocks claims by #Google lobbyists like "Europeans already pay more for flights because they can't use Google to find the cheapest." or "We had 3,000 engineers working 2 years full time to be compliant." and the like rather than explaining to us why we still cannot uninstall the Chrome browser.... 🙄

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Jan Penfrat
@ilumium@eupolicy.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

Hmmm, so #Google lobbyists claim "All apps on Android can be uninstalled" but from my testing on #Android 16 with all latest updates on a #Pixel this appears to be false.

Google's own #DMA compliance report from March 2025 says this is wrong:

"Android allows to uninstall apps by: (i) fully deleting apps that are downloaded or pre-installed in the user partition; and (ii) uninstalling apps in the system partition such that they are returned into an uninstalled state."

https://storage.googleapis.com/transparencyreport/report-downloads/pdf-report-bb_2024-3-7_2025-3-6_en_v1.pdf

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Jan Penfrat
@ilumium@eupolicy.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

Can anyone with a regular and recent #stockROM#Android phone confirm if they were able to uninstall (not deactivate!) pre-installed apps like #Chrome, #Youtube, #GoogleMaps, #GoogleDrive, #GooglePhotos, or #Gmail ?

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Jan Penfrat
@ilumium@eupolicy.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

OK so now @beuc explicitly asks the question on the lack of uninstallation and I followed up here in the room to press #Google on how they keep on pretending disabling apps was the same as removing/uninstalling them and somehow enough for #DMA compliance.

Google's answer: Nothing in combination with lies: they say if an app is disabled, only "remnants of code" remain on the device (wrong) and that "if you remove an app from the Android system partition, the OS breaks" (also wrong). 😠

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Jan Penfrat
@ilumium@eupolicy.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

Excellent online question by @GrapheneOS calling out #Google for selling "payment integrity" as security feature while using it to achieve vendor lock-in.

Google answer: None. Again. @article19's attempt to follow up was denied for sake of time. 😠

#DMA#DigitalMarketsAct

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Jan Penfrat
@ilumium@eupolicy.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

OK coffee break is over here at the @EUCommission#DMA compliance workshop with #Alphabet#Google.

Next up: #AIsaddercat

Google lobbyist starts off with a just slightly off definition of what AI is: she says it's technology that "thinks, learns and takes decisions".

Sounds more like what they would like the tech to be capable off... 😉

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