In Mihi Forbes' report on Rimmer's political influences, we hear Canadian Professor Tom Flanagan eulogising about how much more civilized our colonising ancestors were than the indigenous people they dispossessed;

https://www.rnz.co.nz/podcast/mata-with-mihingarangi-forbes?share=72011f03-6c03-4be9-bd4f-bb8d71b6606c

If they were so civilized, why did they enslave people, and name places in indigenous peoples' lands after slavers?

https://buttondown.com/unsettling/archive/new-zealand-connections-to-caribbean-slavery/

Or if that's a sign of being civilised, why did they stop?

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