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Ben Ramsey
Ben Ramsey
@ramsey@phpc.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@ACM_Ethics That’s harm at an individual level, but @Crell’s blog post points to harm on much larger scales. Here are only a few of those (links from his post):

* https://www.salon.com/2024/01/09/impossible-openai-admits-chatgpt-cant-exist-without-pinching-copyrighted-work/
* https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/long-reads/behind-the-ai-boom-an-army-of-overseas-workers-in-digital-sweatshops-b2401142.html
* https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/05/20/1116327/ai-energy-usage-climate-footprint-big-tech/
* https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/technology/ai-water-use-study-plastic-bottles/article_de4ac7e4-b5a9-4ba7-8b5d-226ba5f8be2d.html

Why do computing professionals and the organizations that represent our interests continue to ignore these harms?

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The Independent

Behind the AI boom, the armies of overseas workers in ‘digital sweatshops’

Thousands of young workers log online everyday in the Philippines to support the ever-growing business of artificial intelligence, Rebecca Tan and Regine Cabato investigate
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Ben Ramsey
Ben Ramsey
@ramsey@phpc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

All of these are in direct opposition to the @ACM_Ethics’s Code of Ethics—and, I’m sure, to other organizations’ codes of ethics. Why, then, are these organizations not sounding the alarm? Are these codes of ethics just feel-good words with no weight behind them?

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@ramsey@phpc.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@ACM_Ethics Here’s a recent example (from today) of human harm caused by AI. This is an ethical issue and should be addressed as such within the entire computing profession.

https://mastodon.social/@Thayer/116002682012736788

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Ben Ramsey
Ben Ramsey
@ramsey@phpc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@ACM_Ethics That’s harm at an individual level, but @Crell’s blog post points to harm on much larger scales. Here are only a few of those (links from his post):

* https://www.salon.com/2024/01/09/impossible-openai-admits-chatgpt-cant-exist-without-pinching-copyrighted-work/
* https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/long-reads/behind-the-ai-boom-an-army-of-overseas-workers-in-digital-sweatshops-b2401142.html
* https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/05/20/1116327/ai-energy-usage-climate-footprint-big-tech/
* https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/technology/ai-water-use-study-plastic-bottles/article_de4ac7e4-b5a9-4ba7-8b5d-226ba5f8be2d.html

Why do computing professionals and the organizations that represent our interests continue to ignore these harms?

#AI #SelfishAI #Ethics

The Independent

Behind the AI boom, the armies of overseas workers in ‘digital sweatshops’

Thousands of young workers log online everyday in the Philippines to support the ever-growing business of artificial intelligence, Rebecca Tan and Regine Cabato investigate
Salon.com

"Impossible": OpenAI admits ChatGPT can't exist without pinching copyrighted work

Human authors sue company for "theft on a mass scale.”
MIT Technology Review

We did the math on AI’s energy footprint. Here’s the story you haven’t heard.

The emissions from individual AI text, image, and video queries seem small—until you add up what the industry isn’t tracking and consider where it’s heading next.
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@ramsey@phpc.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@ACM_Ethics * 4.1 Uphold, promote, and respect the principles of the Code.
* 4.2 Treat violations of the Code as inconsistent with membership in the ACM.

Including: “Each ACM member should encourage and support adherence by all computing professionals regardless of ACM membership.”

https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics

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Ben Ramsey
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@ramsey@phpc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@ACM_Ethics Here’s a recent example (from today) of human harm caused by AI. This is an ethical issue and should be addressed as such within the entire computing profession.

https://mastodon.social/@Thayer/116002682012736788

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@ramsey@phpc.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

* 3.1 Ensure that the public good is the central concern during all professional computing work.
* 3.2 Articulate, encourage acceptance of, and evaluate fulfillment of social responsibilities by members of the organization or group.
* 3.4 Articulate, apply, and support policies and processes that reflect the principles of the Code.

https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics

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Ben Ramsey
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@ramsey@phpc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@ACM_Ethics * 4.1 Uphold, promote, and respect the principles of the Code.
* 4.2 Treat violations of the Code as inconsistent with membership in the ACM.

Including: “Each ACM member should encourage and support adherence by all computing professionals regardless of ACM membership.”

https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics

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@ramsey@phpc.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

I think groups like @ACM_Ethics should be much more vocal about the harm that AI causes, especially given their Code of Ethics includes these principles:

* 1.2 Avoid harm.
* 1.5 Respect the work required to produce new ideas, inventions, creative works, and computing artifacts.
* 2.7 Foster public awareness and understanding of computing, related technologies, and their consequences.

https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics

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Ben Ramsey
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@ramsey@phpc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

* 3.1 Ensure that the public good is the central concern during all professional computing work.
* 3.2 Articulate, encourage acceptance of, and evaluate fulfillment of social responsibilities by members of the organization or group.
* 3.4 Articulate, apply, and support policies and processes that reflect the principles of the Code.

https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics

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@ramsey@phpc.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

“I have nothing left but contempt for ‘it is what it is.’

“No it isn't. It only is what it is because you’re OK with what it is, and aren’t putting in the work to make it otherwise. Those that don't give a fuck about fair copyright application, about poor people, about our planet, are putting in the work to make it so. And you're letting them.

“I do not forgive you.”

https://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/selfish-ai

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Ben Ramsey
Ben Ramsey
@ramsey@phpc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

I think groups like @ACM_Ethics should be much more vocal about the harm that AI causes, especially given their Code of Ethics includes these principles:

* 1.2 Avoid harm.
* 1.5 Respect the work required to produce new ideas, inventions, creative works, and computing artifacts.
* 2.7 Foster public awareness and understanding of computing, related technologies, and their consequences.

https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics

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@ramsey@phpc.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

“I have nothing left but contempt for ‘it is what it is.’

“No it isn't. It only is what it is because you’re OK with what it is, and aren’t putting in the work to make it otherwise. Those that don't give a fuck about fair copyright application, about poor people, about our planet, are putting in the work to make it so. And you're letting them.

“I do not forgive you.”

https://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/selfish-ai

#AI #SelfishAI #Ethics

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@ramsey@phpc.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

“It is not inevitable just because Sam Altman tells his over-leveraged investors it is so. It becomes inevitable when you, _you personally_, decide that you just don't want to think about the externalities or put in the work to find better alternatives.”

https://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/selfish-ai

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Ben Ramsey
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@ramsey@phpc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

“I have nothing left but contempt for ‘it is what it is.’

“No it isn't. It only is what it is because you’re OK with what it is, and aren’t putting in the work to make it otherwise. Those that don't give a fuck about fair copyright application, about poor people, about our planet, are putting in the work to make it so. And you're letting them.

“I do not forgive you.”

https://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/selfish-ai

#AI #SelfishAI #Ethics

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@ramsey@phpc.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

“Every time you, as an individual, shrug your shoulders and say ‘it is what it is’ and do something ethically problematic, you make it that much harder for anyone else to not do so. The pseudo-libertarian lie of ‘vote with your dollars’ is pure bullshit. You have already outvoted me, so I no longer have a choice.”

https://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/selfish-ai

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@ramsey@phpc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

“It is not inevitable just because Sam Altman tells his over-leveraged investors it is so. It becomes inevitable when you, _you personally_, decide that you just don't want to think about the externalities or put in the work to find better alternatives.”

https://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/selfish-ai

#AI #SelfishAI #Ethics

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@ramsey@phpc.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

“Every time you, as an individual, shrug your shoulders and say ‘it is what it is’ and do something ethically problematic, you make it that much harder for anyone else to not do so. The pseudo-libertarian lie of ‘vote with your dollars’ is pure bullshit. You have already outvoted me, so I no longer have a choice.”

https://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/selfish-ai

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