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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

On today's Executive Committee agenda: a double whammy of devastating cuts to housing & shelter funding from provincial and federal governments https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2025.EX26.13

(Elsewhere: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawans-race-against-the-clock-to-house-asylum-seekers-ahead-of-federal-hotel-deadline-1.7644956?cmp=rss)

Agenda: https://secure.toronto.ca/council/#/committees/2468/25778
Livestream: https://youtube.com/live/RC57MK8G6f4

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

OK, I need to 1) nap through the hot part of the day, 2) do Work, and 3) catch up on big moderation backlog. Later all.

Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Here's the item: https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2025.MM32.21

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Now, voting.

  • Bradford's motion removing recommendation to re-zone the Third Street shelter (IT'S NOT EVEN HIS WARD. IT'S MORLEY'S) fails 5-20.
  • Cllr Cheng's motion adding numerous stipulations to North York shelter site (including parking and "to, as a part of the site plan process, consider locating the main entrance to the building so that it is not visible from Sheppard Avenue West") carries by show of hands.
  • Holyday's motion to revamp shelter site selection process fails 7-18.
  • Recommendations 1 & 2 (68 Sheppard West site) carry 23-2
  • Recommendation 3 (1615 Dufferin) carries 23-2
  • Recommendation 4 (Eglinton West, Caledonia) carries 23-2
  • Recommendation 5 (2535 Gerrard) carries 20-5
  • Recommendation 6 (66 Third Street) carries 21-4
  • Recommendation 7 (1220-1222 Wilson Ave) carries 19-6.
  • Recs 8 & 9 (technical things, closure of part of road for Third St. site) carry 21-4.
  • Rec 10, for more consultations (Nunziata: "This should be unanimous, because it's all we talked about today…I want a recorded vote, because that was my motion") carries unanimously.
  • And the entire item as amended carries 22-3 (Bradford, Holyday, Pasternak against).

Great! One item down, uhhh…82 items to go.

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Now going through members' motions. Holyday is miffed that councillors are adding new motions. Look, man, how would you like it if people voted not to waive referral on your routine motion to release Section 37 fu—wait, I don't think your ward has any S37 developments, heyoooooo

(I promise this is a sick burn if you know about Toronto urban planning)

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

"Most people in Toronto are just a couple of paycheques away from losing your house," Cllr Perks, the last speaker, says. "…Saying a shelter brings problems to a neighbourhood is like saying a doctor makes people sick…The people who live in shelters in my ward are every bit as much my constituents as the people who live next to me."

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Now, voting.

  • Bradford's motion removing recommendation to re-zone the Third Street shelter (IT'S NOT EVEN HIS WARD. IT'S MORLEY'S) fails 5-20.
  • Cllr Cheng's motion adding numerous stipulations to North York shelter site (including parking and "to, as a part of the site plan process, consider locating the main entrance to the building so that it is not visible from Sheppard Avenue West") carries by show of hands.
  • Holyday's motion to revamp shelter site selection process fails 7-18.
  • Recommendations 1 & 2 (68 Sheppard West site) carry 23-2
  • Recommendation 3 (1615 Dufferin) carries 23-2
  • Recommendation 4 (Eglinton West, Caledonia) carries 23-2
  • Recommendation 5 (2535 Gerrard) carries 20-5
  • Recommendation 6 (66 Third Street) carries 21-4
  • Recommendation 7 (1220-1222 Wilson Ave) carries 19-6.
  • Recs 8 & 9 (technical things, closure of part of road for Third St. site) carry 21-4.
  • Rec 10, for more consultations (Nunziata: "This should be unanimous, because it's all we talked about today…I want a recorded vote, because that was my motion") carries unanimously.
  • And the entire item as amended carries 22-3 (Bradford, Holyday, Pasternak against).

Great! One item down, uhhh…82 items to go.

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Cllr Bravo mentions Lorenzo Berardinetti (whom Cllr Carroll was obliquely referring to before), former city councillor and MPP, who opposed a shelter in Scarborough and years later wound up homeless. He now publicly regrets his decision, she says.

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

"Most people in Toronto are just a couple of paycheques away from losing your house," Cllr Perks, the last speaker, says. "…Saying a shelter brings problems to a neighbourhood is like saying a doctor makes people sick…The people who live in shelters in my ward are every bit as much my constituents as the people who live next to me."

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

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@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Cllr Malik recounting how residents literally brought their children to consultations (which Cllr Bradford, raising concerns about "not enough consultation", was at, she notes) to "what about the children" her in person.

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Cllr Bravo mentions Lorenzo Berardinetti (whom Cllr Carroll was obliquely referring to before), former city councillor and MPP, who opposed a shelter in Scarborough and years later wound up homeless. He now publicly regrets his decision, she says.

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

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@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Back to the shelter item. Cllr Carroll is bringing up the concepts of dog-whistles and poison pills (both of which some suburban councillors are employing to try to keep shelters out of their wards).

Lee Atwater famously described dog-whistles:

You start out in 1954 by saying, “N—, n—, n—.” By 1968 you can’t say “n—”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N—, n—.”

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Cllr Malik recounting how residents literally brought their children to consultations (which Cllr Bradford, raising concerns about "not enough consultation", was at, she notes) to "what about the children" her in person.

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

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@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

We're back! City Clerk John Elvidge is getting the Association of Municipal Managers, Clerks and Treasurers of Ontario (AMCTO) Prestige Award: https://www.amcto.com/about/awards/prestige-award

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Back to the shelter item. Cllr Carroll is bringing up the concepts of dog-whistles and poison pills (both of which some suburban councillors are employing to try to keep shelters out of their wards).

Lee Atwater famously described dog-whistles:

You start out in 1954 by saying, “N—, n—, n—.” By 1968 you can’t say “n—”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N—, n—.”

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

I have had my almond croissant and coffee and am now ensconced in my room with thick curtains drawn except for the tiny bit of window with screen, the fan going, a spray bottle of cool water and a glass of ice cubes, BRING IT

Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

We're back! City Clerk John Elvidge is getting the Association of Municipal Managers, Clerks and Treasurers of Ontario (AMCTO) Prestige Award: https://www.amcto.com/about/awards/prestige-award

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Fondly remembering a consultation many years ago for a temporary shelter in #parkdale. Planners are often nervous because of angry backlash from residents opposed to shelters. In this case Perks warned the planner that locals were going to be like, harm reduction practices had BETTER be permitted in this shelter, can people bring pets, why so few spaces, why is it only temporary…

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Anyway, gtg coffee and so on, hopefully back before lunch.

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Here's a quick janky LibreOffice Calc visualization. I could improve this if I were not using LibreOffice Calc. Can do something better later if people want. Anyway, the point is: there are constantly people being turned away and there is a need for emergency shelter space.

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

A janky bar graph showing the number of calls each day to the shelter system that resulted in people being told shelter space was unavailable, from November 2020 to now. Individuals/couples (the vast majority) are in light blue, families in dark red. The low, less than 100, is in mid-2021. There are two peaks in mid-2023 and mid-2024 where the total exceeds 300.  Currently it is a bit over 100.
A janky bar graph showing the number of calls each day to the shelter system that resulted in people being told shelter space was unavailable, from November 2020 to now. Individuals/couples (the vast majority) are in light blue, families in dark red. The low, less than 100, is in mid-2021. There are two peaks in mid-2023 and mid-2024 where the total exceeds 300. Currently it is a bit over 100.
A janky bar graph showing the number of calls each day to the shelter system that resulted in people being told shelter space was unavailable, from November 2020 to now. Individuals/couples (the vast majority) are in light blue, families in dark red. The low, less than 100, is in mid-2021. There are two peaks in mid-2023 and mid-2024 where the total exceeds 300. Currently it is a bit over 100.
Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Fondly remembering a consultation many years ago for a temporary shelter in #parkdale. Planners are often nervous because of angry backlash from residents opposed to shelters. In this case Perks warned the planner that locals were going to be like, harm reduction practices had BETTER be permitted in this shelter, can people bring pets, why so few spaces, why is it only temporary…

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

The shelter item: https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2025.PH23.3
Staff report, including links to the shelter designs, etc. (PDF): https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2025/ph/bgrd/backgroundfile-257007.pdf

The 6 new sites have already been approved, gone through public consultations, etc.; they just need to be re-zoned.

Creating the shelters is part of the broader HSCIS (Homelessness Services Capital Infrastructure Strategy) to replace the temporary shelter hotels opened during the first years of COVID and to add more permanent spaces to the perennially at-capacity shelter system, which turns away people every night—~100/night, now; hundreds a couple years ago.
Stats: https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/data-research-maps/research-reports/housing-and-homelessness-research-and-reports/shelter-system-requests-for-referrals/
Data set: https://open.toronto.ca/dataset/central-intake-calls/

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Here's a quick janky LibreOffice Calc visualization. I could improve this if I were not using LibreOffice Calc. Can do something better later if people want. Anyway, the point is: there are constantly people being turned away and there is a need for emergency shelter space.

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

A janky bar graph showing the number of calls each day to the shelter system that resulted in people being told shelter space was unavailable, from November 2020 to now. Individuals/couples (the vast majority) are in light blue, families in dark red. The low, less than 100, is in mid-2021. There are two peaks in mid-2023 and mid-2024 where the total exceeds 300.  Currently it is a bit over 100.
A janky bar graph showing the number of calls each day to the shelter system that resulted in people being told shelter space was unavailable, from November 2020 to now. Individuals/couples (the vast majority) are in light blue, families in dark red. The low, less than 100, is in mid-2021. There are two peaks in mid-2023 and mid-2024 where the total exceeds 300. Currently it is a bit over 100.
A janky bar graph showing the number of calls each day to the shelter system that resulted in people being told shelter space was unavailable, from November 2020 to now. Individuals/couples (the vast majority) are in light blue, families in dark red. The low, less than 100, is in mid-2021. There are two peaks in mid-2023 and mid-2024 where the total exceeds 300. Currently it is a bit over 100.
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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Stay classy, Pasternak https://mastodon.social/@GraphicMatt/114908563958335821

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

The shelter item: https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2025.PH23.3
Staff report, including links to the shelter designs, etc. (PDF): https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2025/ph/bgrd/backgroundfile-257007.pdf

The 6 new sites have already been approved, gone through public consultations, etc.; they just need to be re-zoned.

Creating the shelters is part of the broader HSCIS (Homelessness Services Capital Infrastructure Strategy) to replace the temporary shelter hotels opened during the first years of COVID and to add more permanent spaces to the perennially at-capacity shelter system, which turns away people every night—~100/night, now; hundreds a couple years ago.
Stats: https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/data-research-maps/research-reports/housing-and-homelessness-research-and-reports/shelter-system-requests-for-referrals/
Data set: https://open.toronto.ca/dataset/central-intake-calls/

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@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Aaand we're back to City Council day 2!

  • Agenda (text version)
  • Livestream

I have Work so will be only intermittently watching, but follow @GraphicMatt for live updates.

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Stay classy, Pasternak https://mastodon.social/@GraphicMatt/114908563958335821

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@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Aaand we're back to City Council day 2!

  • Agenda (text version)
  • Livestream

I have Work so will be only intermittently watching, but follow @GraphicMatt for live updates.

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

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@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Oh wow, they're wrapping it up for today. I thought for sure they'd agree to run later. Oh well. Till tomorrow!

"Hopefully we'll all be in a better mood tomorrow," concludes Nunziata.

Odds are not looking great.

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Aaand we're back to City Council day 2!

  • Agenda (text version)
  • Livestream

I have Work so will be only intermittently watching, but follow @GraphicMatt for live updates.

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

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@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Pro tip: in TMMIS, on each meeting's page (e. g. https://secure.toronto.ca/council/#/committees/2462/25767) you can "Filter by" item statuses to quickly display, e. g., only remaining items.

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The Toronto city website page for today's council meeting, displaying the times and dates, links to items like Agenda, Map, Bills, Meeting Monitor, etc., a link to the YouTube video, and a collapsible section called "Filter Items". There are drop-downs for selecting the item status (all, remaining, adopted, etc.; "Remaining" is selected) and section (all, the various committees, New Business, Member Motions, etc.). Below that is a link to the current item, then a list of all the remaining items.
The Toronto city website page for today's council meeting, displaying the times and dates, links to items like Agenda, Map, Bills, Meeting Monitor, etc., a link to the YouTube video, and a collapsible section called "Filter Items". There are drop-downs for selecting the item status (all, remaining, adopted, etc.; "Remaining" is selected) and section (all, the various committees, New Business, Member Motions, etc.). Below that is a link to the current item, then a list of all the remaining items.
The Toronto city website page for today's council meeting, displaying the times and dates, links to items like Agenda, Map, Bills, Meeting Monitor, etc., a link to the YouTube video, and a collapsible section called "Filter Items". There are drop-downs for selecting the item status (all, remaining, adopted, etc.; "Remaining" is selected) and section (all, the various committees, New Business, Member Motions, etc.). Below that is a link to the current item, then a list of all the remaining items.
Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Oh wow, they're wrapping it up for today. I thought for sure they'd agree to run later. Oh well. Till tomorrow!

"Hopefully we'll all be in a better mood tomorrow," concludes Nunziata.

Odds are not looking great.

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

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@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Current item: "Audit of Transportation Services: Improving Utility Cut Permit and Inspection Processes". https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2025.AU9.7 Gripping stuff but I need to not be in a computer chair right now.

(Seriously though, often it's the driest and most boring-sounding stuff that is actually quite important, so somebody should be paying attention to this.)

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Pro tip: in TMMIS, on each meeting's page (e. g. https://secure.toronto.ca/council/#/committees/2462/25767) you can "Filter by" item statuses to quickly display, e. g., only remaining items.

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

The Toronto city website page for today's council meeting, displaying the times and dates, links to items like Agenda, Map, Bills, Meeting Monitor, etc., a link to the YouTube video, and a collapsible section called "Filter Items". There are drop-downs for selecting the item status (all, remaining, adopted, etc.; "Remaining" is selected) and section (all, the various committees, New Business, Member Motions, etc.). Below that is a link to the current item, then a list of all the remaining items.
The Toronto city website page for today's council meeting, displaying the times and dates, links to items like Agenda, Map, Bills, Meeting Monitor, etc., a link to the YouTube video, and a collapsible section called "Filter Items". There are drop-downs for selecting the item status (all, remaining, adopted, etc.; "Remaining" is selected) and section (all, the various committees, New Business, Member Motions, etc.). Below that is a link to the current item, then a list of all the remaining items.
The Toronto city website page for today's council meeting, displaying the times and dates, links to items like Agenda, Map, Bills, Meeting Monitor, etc., a link to the YouTube video, and a collapsible section called "Filter Items". There are drop-downs for selecting the item status (all, remaining, adopted, etc.; "Remaining" is selected) and section (all, the various committees, New Business, Member Motions, etc.). Below that is a link to the current item, then a list of all the remaining items.
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@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

They're now voting. See status of votes here (not updated in real-time, but eventually): https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2025.EX25.4

Voting on the Bathurst-specific bits separately; passes 18-5. On the rest of the motion, 20-3. Bradford, Holyday, Pasternak against.

"Okay, we've completed one item," Speaker Nunziata says a little wearily. There's applause from the gallery (probably because they like public transit and not to congratulate Council on its efficiency).

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Current item: "Audit of Transportation Services: Improving Utility Cut Permit and Inspection Processes". https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2025.AU9.7 Gripping stuff but I need to not be in a computer chair right now.

(Seriously though, often it's the driest and most boring-sounding stuff that is actually quite important, so somebody should be paying attention to this.)

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

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@nev@status.nevillepark.ca  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Cllr Thompson (who, I must add, was just on trial for sexual assault) accuses some fellow councillors of "moonlighting" in other wards, councillors who don't even have red lanes (priority bus lanes) in their own wards. With biting sarcasm: "Wait for a report to come in—what report? The one that's already written" and before them?

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Neville Park
@nev@status.nevillepark.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

They're now voting. See status of votes here (not updated in real-time, but eventually): https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2025.EX25.4

Voting on the Bathurst-specific bits separately; passes 18-5. On the rest of the motion, 20-3. Bradford, Holyday, Pasternak against.

"Okay, we've completed one item," Speaker Nunziata says a little wearily. There's applause from the gallery (probably because they like public transit and not to congratulate Council on its efficiency).

#TOcouncil #TOpoli

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