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@contrapunctus@fe.disroot.org  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

I had been wondering for some time if I was going about things the wrong way by doing #OpenStreetMap workshops (where I teach people to use iD) at #FOSS meetups and conferences.

While I’d also try to cover why #OSM is important and how to use it, most of the time was taken up in learning to edit…which seemed backward. Why would someone continue editing afterwards if they weren’t convinced of the importance of the project?

There was also another thought stewing in my head…most of the people who have attended our mapping parties, and all the people who are regular participants, are all big on #SoftwareFreedom and #privacy. Maybe we should try focusing more on software freedom, and promote OSM in that context?

With these ideas in mind and after discussions with @ravi, I decided to prepare a new talk - one focused on getting people to use some #Libre map apps (CoMaps, OsmAnd, and OsmApp). If we can convince people to do that, they’ll probably also start contributing data, and participating in mapping parties…

This time, I added a lot more screenshots in the hope of providing a more engaging experience. I’ve also been burned by conference WiFi all too often, so this time I made many screen capture videos instead of demonstrating websites or applications live.

I gave the talk at today’s FOSS Meetup Delhi. It was far from perfect, but at least I got a clear path towards improving it - I need to cut down the run time and some irrelevant content, so I can present it in 15 to 30 minutes depending on the situation. And of course, there are still more screenshots and video demos to be added.

https://codeberg.org/contrapunctus/osm-presentations/src/branch/production/foss-maps-and-why-you-should-use-them

(All presentations made with #Emacs , #OrgMode , and #RevealJS )

This time I also made sure to arrive early so I could understand how to extend the display using the projector, and use RevealJS’s speaker view. That way, I was able to use the slides to guide me without giving away what I was about to say, and I could speak first and let the slide summarize it afterwards.

Relying on the laptop to act as a teleprompter has its drawbacks, though…you want to be focused on the audience, not the screen. And you want to be free to move around…

#contraMaps#Delhi#India#FreeSoftware

¡Abbie!
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@cwebber@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

Oh, one more thing. There's a "joke" in the ActivityPub spec about having an ActivityPub client written in where you wrote the posts with the "source" language being in (and as an even deeper joke, the character's name is an SICP character). w3.org/TR/activitypub/#source-

Except who would actually do that haha lmao

I DID I DID THAT

That screenshot of soci.el being used to compose posts that then rendered in Pubstrate?

IT'S USING ORGMODE lmao
Christine Lemmer-Webber 🌀
@cwebber@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

Anyway. ActivityPub standardization was a large portion of my life for a long time. Ironically, it became much less of my focus in my life right around the time it started to take off (I'm much more focused on @spritely now)

So over time, I've tried to hand over the reigns in bits and pieces. But activitypub.rocks was one last major pieces that was languishing sitting in my hands.

But the fediverse is great, and I'm happy the site has much better chance of care now. Onwards and upwards!
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@cwebber@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

Oh, one more thing. There's a "joke" in the ActivityPub spec about having an ActivityPub client written in where you wrote the posts with the "source" language being in (and as an even deeper joke, the character's name is an SICP character). w3.org/TR/activitypub/#source-

Except who would actually do that haha lmao

I DID I DID THAT

That screenshot of soci.el being used to compose posts that then rendered in Pubstrate?

IT'S USING ORGMODE lmao
Eduardo Mercovich (él)
@edumerco@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

Querides Emacseres.
Necesito ayuda con #elisp para mi tesis (exploración de aprendizajes significativos para operar fuera de la academia) con #ProgramaciónLiteraria + #InvestigaciónReproducible. Y quiero q esté tan autocontenida en #Emacs (sí, soy un geek y estoy orgulloso) como sea posible. Sin embargo y aunque avanzo, encuentro mi elisp fu limitante.
¿Podría alguien ayudarme con esta tesis para mostrar el poder de Emacs y el #SoftwareLibre? Me encantará devolver con mis habilidades.
1e^3.Grcs
Eduardo Mercovich (él)
@edumerco@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

Dear Emacsers.
I need some help w/ #elisp for my #LiterateProgramming + #ReproducibleResearch thesis (an exploration of meaningful abilities to operate outside academia).
I'd like it as completely self contained in -and sustained by- #Emacs (yes, I'm a geek and I'm proud) as possible and, while going forward, I've found my #elisp fu limiting.
Can anyone share some time to help me with this thesis and show the power of Emacs and #FreeSoftware? I'd gladly share my abilities back.
1e^3.Thxs
Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:
@publicvoit@graz.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

Here are some details of the new #logseq DB variant (currently in alpha):
https://discuss.logseq.com/t/logseq-db-unofficial-faq/32508

TL;DR:
- you can't edit the #Markdown files directly
- #orgdown support is lost
- EDN export is introduced besides MD export
- sync and RTC require a subscription
- practically, you can't run the sync on your own
- #Zotero no longer part of the core app

If this holds true, I can't endorse use of logseq any more.

I need to migrate other people's setups I was maintaining to a different solution. Too bad as it was the only good #PIM tool option I could find outside #Emacs #orgmode. 😔

Background: https://karl-voit.at/2024/01/28/logseq-from-org-pov/

#enshittification

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@kasdeya@cryptid.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

I was browsing r/emacs today out of curiosity and happened to find this incredible post that’s relevant to a lot more than just #Emacs

post by reddit user u/permetz on r/emacs, titled "Mean people suck, folks.": I've been using Emacs since 1983; it's been my go-to editor the entire time. I've given talks on it, recorded videos, and generally have promoted it forever. I'm not quite ready to abandon it, but I am feeling pretty unhappy about r/emacs. For whatever reason, this subreddit seems to be inhabited by people who delight, when someone asks a reasonable question, in downvoting them and being as unpleasant as they can manage to be. This happened to me just today. I'm not a newcomer, and I've been programming for decades, and yes, I used google before asking a question here, but sometimes you really do want to know what other people think about something subjective, or there's a problem that isn't quite so easily solved by o3-mini-high. It's not unreasonable in such circumstances to ask questions. Every time you're unpleasant to people online about something they want to use, you're making the world just a slightly worse place. You're discouraging people from asking questions, discouraging them from using the software you supposedly love, making people have slightly worse associations with that software, feel slightly more like they want to be somewhere else. Expose them to that sort of "love" often enough, and eventually they softly and silently walk away. The world works best when people try, within reason, to be kind to each other. Being unkind in the end punishes itself, but long before that, it can make whole communities too unpleasant to participate in. After a while the remaining people sit around wondering why no one wants to use their favorite thing; obviously, they conclude, it must be because most people are stupid and bad. (This isn't exclusive to software of course; I've seen companies and clubs and all sorts of groups killed by this sort of thing.) If you feel a question is too basic or too stupid, that someone should have gone off and used Google or what have you, then ignore it, you are not obligated to say every unfriendly thing that ever comes into your head, and in fact, most of us learn fairly early on in life that if you don't have something nice to say, being quiet is often the best idea. If you absolutely can't ignore it and still feel upset that someone wants to use the software you use but doesn't know something, then perhaps stop reading Reddit; it's not doing good things for your psyche.
post by reddit user u/permetz on r/emacs, titled "Mean people suck, folks.": I've been using Emacs since 1983; it's been my go-to editor the entire time. I've given talks on it, recorded videos, and generally have promoted it forever. I'm not quite ready to abandon it, but I am feeling pretty unhappy about r/emacs. For whatever reason, this subreddit seems to be inhabited by people who delight, when someone asks a reasonable question, in downvoting them and being as unpleasant as they can manage to be. This happened to me just today. I'm not a newcomer, and I've been programming for decades, and yes, I used google before asking a question here, but sometimes you really do want to know what other people think about something subjective, or there's a problem that isn't quite so easily solved by o3-mini-high. It's not unreasonable in such circumstances to ask questions. Every time you're unpleasant to people online about something they want to use, you're making the world just a slightly worse place. You're discouraging people from asking questions, discouraging them from using the software you supposedly love, making people have slightly worse associations with that software, feel slightly more like they want to be somewhere else. Expose them to that sort of "love" often enough, and eventually they softly and silently walk away. The world works best when people try, within reason, to be kind to each other. Being unkind in the end punishes itself, but long before that, it can make whole communities too unpleasant to participate in. After a while the remaining people sit around wondering why no one wants to use their favorite thing; obviously, they conclude, it must be because most people are stupid and bad. (This isn't exclusive to software of course; I've seen companies and clubs and all sorts of groups killed by this sort of thing.) If you feel a question is too basic or too stupid, that someone should have gone off and used Google or what have you, then ignore it, you are not obligated to say every unfriendly thing that ever comes into your head, and in fact, most of us learn fairly early on in life that if you don't have something nice to say, being quiet is often the best idea. If you absolutely can't ignore it and still feel upset that someone wants to use the software you use but doesn't know something, then perhaps stop reading Reddit; it's not doing good things for your psyche.
post by reddit user u/permetz on r/emacs, titled "Mean people suck, folks.": I've been using Emacs since 1983; it's been my go-to editor the entire time. I've given talks on it, recorded videos, and generally have promoted it forever. I'm not quite ready to abandon it, but I am feeling pretty unhappy about r/emacs. For whatever reason, this subreddit seems to be inhabited by people who delight, when someone asks a reasonable question, in downvoting them and being as unpleasant as they can manage to be. This happened to me just today. I'm not a newcomer, and I've been programming for decades, and yes, I used google before asking a question here, but sometimes you really do want to know what other people think about something subjective, or there's a problem that isn't quite so easily solved by o3-mini-high. It's not unreasonable in such circumstances to ask questions. Every time you're unpleasant to people online about something they want to use, you're making the world just a slightly worse place. You're discouraging people from asking questions, discouraging them from using the software you supposedly love, making people have slightly worse associations with that software, feel slightly more like they want to be somewhere else. Expose them to that sort of "love" often enough, and eventually they softly and silently walk away. The world works best when people try, within reason, to be kind to each other. Being unkind in the end punishes itself, but long before that, it can make whole communities too unpleasant to participate in. After a while the remaining people sit around wondering why no one wants to use their favorite thing; obviously, they conclude, it must be because most people are stupid and bad. (This isn't exclusive to software of course; I've seen companies and clubs and all sorts of groups killed by this sort of thing.) If you feel a question is too basic or too stupid, that someone should have gone off and used Google or what have you, then ignore it, you are not obligated to say every unfriendly thing that ever comes into your head, and in fact, most of us learn fairly early on in life that if you don't have something nice to say, being quiet is often the best idea. If you absolutely can't ignore it and still feel upset that someone wants to use the software you use but doesn't know something, then perhaps stop reading Reddit; it's not doing good things for your psyche.
kasdeya
@kasdeya@cryptid.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

I was browsing r/emacs today out of curiosity and happened to find this incredible post that’s relevant to a lot more than just #Emacs

post by reddit user u/permetz on r/emacs, titled "Mean people suck, folks.": I've been using Emacs since 1983; it's been my go-to editor the entire time. I've given talks on it, recorded videos, and generally have promoted it forever. I'm not quite ready to abandon it, but I am feeling pretty unhappy about r/emacs. For whatever reason, this subreddit seems to be inhabited by people who delight, when someone asks a reasonable question, in downvoting them and being as unpleasant as they can manage to be. This happened to me just today. I'm not a newcomer, and I've been programming for decades, and yes, I used google before asking a question here, but sometimes you really do want to know what other people think about something subjective, or there's a problem that isn't quite so easily solved by o3-mini-high. It's not unreasonable in such circumstances to ask questions. Every time you're unpleasant to people online about something they want to use, you're making the world just a slightly worse place. You're discouraging people from asking questions, discouraging them from using the software you supposedly love, making people have slightly worse associations with that software, feel slightly more like they want to be somewhere else. Expose them to that sort of "love" often enough, and eventually they softly and silently walk away. The world works best when people try, within reason, to be kind to each other. Being unkind in the end punishes itself, but long before that, it can make whole communities too unpleasant to participate in. After a while the remaining people sit around wondering why no one wants to use their favorite thing; obviously, they conclude, it must be because most people are stupid and bad. (This isn't exclusive to software of course; I've seen companies and clubs and all sorts of groups killed by this sort of thing.) If you feel a question is too basic or too stupid, that someone should have gone off and used Google or what have you, then ignore it, you are not obligated to say every unfriendly thing that ever comes into your head, and in fact, most of us learn fairly early on in life that if you don't have something nice to say, being quiet is often the best idea. If you absolutely can't ignore it and still feel upset that someone wants to use the software you use but doesn't know something, then perhaps stop reading Reddit; it's not doing good things for your psyche.
post by reddit user u/permetz on r/emacs, titled "Mean people suck, folks.": I've been using Emacs since 1983; it's been my go-to editor the entire time. I've given talks on it, recorded videos, and generally have promoted it forever. I'm not quite ready to abandon it, but I am feeling pretty unhappy about r/emacs. For whatever reason, this subreddit seems to be inhabited by people who delight, when someone asks a reasonable question, in downvoting them and being as unpleasant as they can manage to be. This happened to me just today. I'm not a newcomer, and I've been programming for decades, and yes, I used google before asking a question here, but sometimes you really do want to know what other people think about something subjective, or there's a problem that isn't quite so easily solved by o3-mini-high. It's not unreasonable in such circumstances to ask questions. Every time you're unpleasant to people online about something they want to use, you're making the world just a slightly worse place. You're discouraging people from asking questions, discouraging them from using the software you supposedly love, making people have slightly worse associations with that software, feel slightly more like they want to be somewhere else. Expose them to that sort of "love" often enough, and eventually they softly and silently walk away. The world works best when people try, within reason, to be kind to each other. Being unkind in the end punishes itself, but long before that, it can make whole communities too unpleasant to participate in. After a while the remaining people sit around wondering why no one wants to use their favorite thing; obviously, they conclude, it must be because most people are stupid and bad. (This isn't exclusive to software of course; I've seen companies and clubs and all sorts of groups killed by this sort of thing.) If you feel a question is too basic or too stupid, that someone should have gone off and used Google or what have you, then ignore it, you are not obligated to say every unfriendly thing that ever comes into your head, and in fact, most of us learn fairly early on in life that if you don't have something nice to say, being quiet is often the best idea. If you absolutely can't ignore it and still feel upset that someone wants to use the software you use but doesn't know something, then perhaps stop reading Reddit; it's not doing good things for your psyche.
post by reddit user u/permetz on r/emacs, titled "Mean people suck, folks.": I've been using Emacs since 1983; it's been my go-to editor the entire time. I've given talks on it, recorded videos, and generally have promoted it forever. I'm not quite ready to abandon it, but I am feeling pretty unhappy about r/emacs. For whatever reason, this subreddit seems to be inhabited by people who delight, when someone asks a reasonable question, in downvoting them and being as unpleasant as they can manage to be. This happened to me just today. I'm not a newcomer, and I've been programming for decades, and yes, I used google before asking a question here, but sometimes you really do want to know what other people think about something subjective, or there's a problem that isn't quite so easily solved by o3-mini-high. It's not unreasonable in such circumstances to ask questions. Every time you're unpleasant to people online about something they want to use, you're making the world just a slightly worse place. You're discouraging people from asking questions, discouraging them from using the software you supposedly love, making people have slightly worse associations with that software, feel slightly more like they want to be somewhere else. Expose them to that sort of "love" often enough, and eventually they softly and silently walk away. The world works best when people try, within reason, to be kind to each other. Being unkind in the end punishes itself, but long before that, it can make whole communities too unpleasant to participate in. After a while the remaining people sit around wondering why no one wants to use their favorite thing; obviously, they conclude, it must be because most people are stupid and bad. (This isn't exclusive to software of course; I've seen companies and clubs and all sorts of groups killed by this sort of thing.) If you feel a question is too basic or too stupid, that someone should have gone off and used Google or what have you, then ignore it, you are not obligated to say every unfriendly thing that ever comes into your head, and in fact, most of us learn fairly early on in life that if you don't have something nice to say, being quiet is often the best idea. If you absolutely can't ignore it and still feel upset that someone wants to use the software you use but doesn't know something, then perhaps stop reading Reddit; it's not doing good things for your psyche.
Debacle
@debacle@framapiaf.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago
@juh

That's the #Emacs equivalent to #curlPipeSudoBash, directly from trustworthy #MSGitHub? 🙂

#security #git
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@contrapunctus@fe.disroot.org  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

I had been wondering for some time if I was going about things the wrong way by doing #OpenStreetMap workshops (where I teach people to use iD) at #FOSS meetups and conferences.

While I’d also try to cover why #OSM is important and how to use it, most of the time was taken up in learning to edit…which seemed backward. Why would someone continue editing afterwards if they weren’t convinced of the importance of the project?

There was also another thought stewing in my head…most of the people who have attended our mapping parties, and all the people who are regular participants, are all big on #SoftwareFreedom and #privacy. Maybe we should try focusing more on software freedom, and promote OSM in that context?

With these ideas in mind and after discussions with @ravi, I decided to prepare a new talk - one focused on getting people to use some #Libre map apps (CoMaps, OsmAnd, and OsmApp). If we can convince people to do that, they’ll probably also start contributing data, and participating in mapping parties…

This time, I added a lot more screenshots in the hope of providing a more engaging experience. I’ve also been burned by conference WiFi all too often, so this time I made many screen capture videos instead of demonstrating websites or applications live.

I gave the talk at today’s FOSS Meetup Delhi. It was far from perfect, but at least I got a clear path towards improving it - I need to cut down the run time and some irrelevant content, so I can present it in 15 to 30 minutes depending on the situation. And of course, there are still more screenshots and video demos to be added.

https://codeberg.org/contrapunctus/osm-presentations/src/branch/production/foss-maps-and-why-you-should-use-them

(All presentations made with #Emacs , #OrgMode , and #RevealJS )

This time I also made sure to arrive early so I could understand how to extend the display using the projector, and use RevealJS’s speaker view. That way, I was able to use the slides to guide me without giving away what I was about to say, and I could speak first and let the slide summarize it afterwards.

Relying on the laptop to act as a teleprompter has its drawbacks, though…you want to be focused on the audience, not the screen. And you want to be free to move around…

#contraMaps#Delhi#India#FreeSoftware