You are given limited access to the Gearworks of Reality. You may delete one of these from human civilization.
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@vex @mttaggart I dunno, it's like being really angry at screwdrivers. There is utility there with LLMs. I know because I've saved hours of work with them as research assistants. It's a tool. If you know how to use it, what it's good at (screws) and what it's not good at (driving nails).. it's a useful tool. I can provide dozens and dozens of specific examples, but only in the "research assistant" area. I just don't find it practical or useful to be really pissed off at screwdrivers. YMMV. If people want to be really pissed off at screwdrivers, I love that for them but I humbly submit crypto is FAR more dangerous and has NO good use cases that aren't like, crime or gambling. Assuming you have limited wells of anger, perhaps.. direct it.. there? Or if you have unlimited anger, I dunno, go nuts?
@codinghorror @mttaggart I wanna see where the middle ground is between us so I'll try engaging with the tool analogy.
I think AI is closer to a gun than a screwdriver. I'm going off of majority use case, as approximated by energy & money. & When there's a larger excess of guns, there's a larger excess of harm by guns (e.g. the US). I think that analogy translates well, except guns kill directly & AI indirectly.
I say this because the way AI is being implemented seems to have more destructive than constructive outcomes.
@vex @mttaggart well, in the sense that poor use of it has actually killed some people, perhaps.. but I would put it in the category of automobile rather than gun, because a gun is purpose built to kill, and I just don't believe global brain stats with every word ever written ever, ever had that design intent of killing that a gun does .. what other utility do guns even have .. you'd need to do a LOT of convincing for me to get on board with that
@codinghorror @mttaggart I can make my case more easily comparing AI with a car than a gun. It's only been within the last decade that gun deaths have surpassed automobile deaths. & that's without including climate-related deaths indirectly caused by over a century of automotive pollution.
Cities being designed around cars have also shown to have a net negative effect on life satisfaction, with cities banning cars becoming measurably happier after.
& despite cars being transportation devices, car-centric cities actually make transportation less accessible, making walking & biking longer & more dangerous. They also exacerbate poverty by being a common requirement for employment.
The detriment of cars comes from their application rather than their existence. Requiring individual purchase for collective transportation is an act of class warfare that exacerbates poverty. It has financial, environmental, emotional, & health costs that all get passed down to the end users & their neighbors. & we as individuals had little say in their integration into society.
AI is currently undergoing such an integration, with data centers being forced through despite 70% dissent from residents. It's also being integrated into technology in a way that's clearly for surveillance & control. The systemic integration of AI can only be prevented through mass rejection of the tool, because consistent use of it would otherwise deteriorate resistance to its forced integration.
So even though you're right that people are directing their ire at a tool, we have little ability to direct the anger at the forced systemic integration of the tool, since such dissent is simply ignored. The only power we have in resisting such integration is rejecting the tool itself en massé.
@vex @mttaggart it wasn't forced on me. I use it appropriately and save SO many hours of human work, but I centauir everything.
@mttaggart AI (not the technology but the hype and marketing and companies and CEOs) is indistinguishable from a gamble, so... By that definition, selecting one implies selecting the other one. 🤷♂️
@mttaggart I really was the guy with 2 buttons meme on this one. I ended up picking gambling because *damage over the entire history* but it's also the easier one to regulate.
@mttaggart redundancy collapse and the very lever to delete gambling is also a gamble, so the choice nukes reality.
Good fucking job, bro. This poll is the end of us all in 13 hours.
@NosirrahSec If my writing had the power to alter the cosmos, you'd have noticed.
@mttaggart Tou, fucking, che; sir, we can agree there.
If you see funky shit with a slight righteous rage tinge to it, and I've been laying low, hahahah
Someone was dumb enough to give me powers.
Voted banning gambling because AI is a HUGE gamble, so 2 birds with 1 stone.
@mttaggart assertion: all the folks not tapping "gambling" have gambling addiction and cldn't survive a day w/o a game of chance.
@hrbrmstr @mttaggart
Humble opinion: As opposed to being addicted, those not choosing "gambling" do not consider themselves affected by gambling in any way whatsoever. So its disappearance would make absolutely no difference in their lives.
I love sports but gambling has never appealed to me. Not for money or in this way. I however enjoy rng in games / rogue type games.
I do see the impact of gambling somewhat though.
@mttaggart @wdormann @hrbrmstr I have been in sports my whole life but don't consider myself a fan. I hate gambling in general ( especially the stock market and Polymarket type stuff ) but voted for Gen-AI before reading the follow up clarification toot. I don't see a problem with small wagers now and then though which is why I didn't vote for that. I would change my vote now if I could.
@mttaggart
I don't get it... You said "one of these" but where is the second choice?
@mttaggart Isn't genAI just a subset of Gambling?
@mttaggart considering intermittent reinforcement, they're the same picture...
@neurovagrant I'm not so sure. See some replies for rationales.
@mttaggart the funnier part is that gambling contributes to the geo-engineering of the nevada desert, which i suspect has a lot of water impact.
this is a fun question.
Delete MBAs and TechBros is the solution. There something rotten at the core of humanity that always results in these (or their analogues) and that's why we can't have nice things
@mttaggart neither is in the top ten of things I worry about, so probably "neither". I might feel inclined to "investigate" what else I might change. :)
