You are given limited access to the Gearworks of Reality. You may delete one of these from human civilization.
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@mttaggart AI (not the technology but the hype and marketing and companies and CEOs) is indistinguishable from a gamble, so... By that definition, selecting one implies selecting the other one. 🤷♂️
@mttaggart I really was the guy with 2 buttons meme on this one. I ended up picking gambling because *damage over the entire history* but it's also the easier one to regulate.
@mttaggart redundancy collapse and the very lever to delete gambling is also a gamble, so the choice nukes reality.
Good fucking job, bro. This poll is the end of us all in 13 hours.
@NosirrahSec If my writing had the power to alter the cosmos, you'd have noticed.
@mttaggart Tou, fucking, che; sir, we can agree there.
If you see funky shit with a slight righteous rage tinge to it, and I've been laying low, hahahah
Someone was dumb enough to give me powers.
Voted banning gambling because AI is a HUGE gamble, so 2 birds with 1 stone.
@mttaggart assertion: all the folks not tapping "gambling" have gambling addiction and cldn't survive a day w/o a game of chance.
@hrbrmstr @mttaggart
Humble opinion: As opposed to being addicted, those not choosing "gambling" do not consider themselves affected by gambling in any way whatsoever. So its disappearance would make absolutely no difference in their lives.
I love sports but gambling has never appealed to me. Not for money or in this way. I however enjoy rng in games / rogue type games.
I do see the impact of gambling somewhat though.
@mttaggart @wdormann @hrbrmstr I have been in sports my whole life but don't consider myself a fan. I hate gambling in general ( especially the stock market and Polymarket type stuff ) but voted for Gen-AI before reading the follow up clarification toot. I don't see a problem with small wagers now and then though which is why I didn't vote for that. I would change my vote now if I could.
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I don't get it... You said "one of these" but where is the second choice?
@mttaggart Isn't genAI just a subset of Gambling?
@mttaggart considering intermittent reinforcement, they're the same picture...
@neurovagrant I'm not so sure. See some replies for rationales.
@mttaggart the funnier part is that gambling contributes to the geo-engineering of the nevada desert, which i suspect has a lot of water impact.
this is a fun question.
Delete MBAs and TechBros is the solution. There something rotten at the core of humanity that always results in these (or their analogues) and that's why we can't have nice things
@mttaggart neither is in the top ten of things I worry about, so probably "neither". I might feel inclined to "investigate" what else I might change. :)
I guess you practically asked for it.
@mttaggart I obviously understand there is a distinction. But I also don't think I'd live in the country with the highest data centre per capita ratio in Europe if venture capitalists weren't betting on betting smart enough to get out before the bubble bursts. It's how much they keep pushing it beyond the scope of utility that makes it such a scourge. Its the griftiness of it all.
@mttaggart LLMs are gambling, the stock market is gambling, the same way prediction markets are gambling. Therefore I will erase gambling and GenAI will subside overnight because everyone will lose interest since the only shiny thing about it is gone
@mttaggart As reprehensible in every way gen AI has become, I didn't hesitate to choose gambling. That's the problem that would require Gearworks of Reality-level powers to eradicate. With regulation and enforcement, gen AI can be rendered safe enough. It's doing great damage in the meantime, but that's on us humans, who could have prevented it. No human could prevent gambling.
@mttaggart Shame it's only one!
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I feel like removing gambling may fix enough things so that AI also dies.
If gambling on stock is no longer a thing a will a lot of investment would go away.
@mttaggart I choose gambling because generative AI is not enough. I want all AI to fucking burn.
@mttaggart Do you mean like, the different ways one can gamble, or the inborn human urge to gamble? I’m kinda assuming the latter, because the former is a legal policy that is just Prohibition - with all the success and longevity that comes with it - and the latter would require access to reality’s guts to change.
So definitely the human nature one. Much better return than banning something.
@mttaggart Well, you could certainly argue Generative AI is a form of gambling
@mttaggart Truly, neither. Not our biggest problems. Show me the glitch that predisposes us to confirmation bias - I’d like to iron out that one.
@mttaggart
Since generative AI is only so prominent because the tech CEOs are gambling they can create the fabled singularity before their financial bubble collapses, eliminating the human desire to gamble will eliminate destructive behavior like they're doing with AI now.
@mttaggart gambling (recreational) is almost impossible to eradicate, as it is very low tech and essentially a construct of mind, so you'd have to alter the very nature of human cognition as it depends on our ability for risk analysis.
People can bet on which stick floats down a river fastest.
Generative AI is high-tech dependent and has yet to be shown as even vaguely efficient in resource usage - it hasn't even *started* to break even at scale.
The price signal of using it has yet to be determined.
Removing genAI is the only achievable one that renders a recognisable world, and every adult alive has lived in a time of no genAI.
The same cannot be said of gambling (recreational).
@mttaggart get rid of gambling and end GenAI use as a result 👍
@mttaggart isn't generative AI also gambling?
@mttaggart If gambling includes the investment & stock market, which it should, then that - it would take most of our other problems away too.
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@mttaggart they’re the same picture
@ajn142 I don't know that I've ever seen an employer require employees to sit at a blackjack table outside of Vegas, but I do agree there are similarities.
@mttaggart I mean, both amount to "put money in, trigger nondeterministic statistical system, maybe get something back, repeat". It's just that employers have been sold the idea that putting money in and pulling the lever until they get something usable is less expensive than hiring someone who can do the work without GenAI, or will let that person do so much more work for the same wage, but they don't recognize the equivalence to feeding the rent money to a slot machine.
@mttaggart There's a difference?
@mttaggart Limited only to casinos, prediction markets, etc.. GenAI and it's not close.
Far more destructive.
@distractal Watching what gambling's done to a lot of lives, I'm really not so sure, hence the poll.
@mttaggart As a Methodist, I chose gambling. Maybe we can compromise somewhere on no one being a billionaire.
@vwbusguy Extreme wealth and poverty is such a low bar to clear for a just society, but right there with you
