You are given limited access to the Gearworks of Reality. You may delete one of these from human civilization.
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Since generative AI is only so prominent because the tech CEOs are gambling they can create the fabled singularity before their financial bubble collapses, eliminating the human desire to gamble will eliminate destructive behavior like they're doing with AI now.
@mttaggart gambling (recreational) is almost impossible to eradicate, as it is very low tech and essentially a construct of mind, so you'd have to alter the very nature of human cognition as it depends on our ability for risk analysis.
People can bet on which stick floats down a river fastest.
Generative AI is high-tech dependent and has yet to be shown as even vaguely efficient in resource usage - it hasn't even *started* to break even at scale.
The price signal of using it has yet to be determined.
Removing genAI is the only achievable one that renders a recognisable world, and every adult alive has lived in a time of no genAI.
The same cannot be said of gambling (recreational).
@mttaggart get rid of gambling and end GenAI use as a result 👍
@mttaggart isn't generative AI also gambling?
@mttaggart If gambling includes the investment & stock market, which it should, then that - it would take most of our other problems away too.
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@ajn142 I don't know that I've ever seen an employer require employees to sit at a blackjack table outside of Vegas, but I do agree there are similarities.
@mttaggart There's a difference?
@mttaggart Limited only to casinos, prediction markets, etc.. GenAI and it's not close.
Far more destructive.
@distractal Watching what gambling's done to a lot of lives, I'm really not so sure, hence the poll.
@mttaggart As a Methodist, I chose gambling. Maybe we can compromise somewhere on no one being a billionaire.
@vwbusguy Extreme wealth and poverty is such a low bar to clear for a just society, but right there with you
I don't want to remove responses, but for clarification, I am referring to recreational gambling such as casinos, sports betting, and prediction markets. An overbroad definition of "gambling" is pointless.
Edit: And yes, day-trading and otherwise gamifying securities markets.
Fascinating to see how many folks think these are identical.
I remember once being called a "lumper" in school—trying to make the case that many different categories were in fact indistinct, thereby rendering the discussions of differences moot. This is in contrast to "sorters," who prefer to highlight differences.
I can see how these two things look similar, but I also think it would be imprudent to regard all the tools of oppression without distinction.
Or perhaps y'all think one is a subclass of the other? Are LLMs just gambling? I find that a tad reductive, if I'm honest.
I guess I turned into a sorter with time.
@mttaggart Most people are sorters in my experience. I have that experience because I'm often accused of being a lumper. Thing is, I'm neither.
If I see a duck and a goose, I don't think of them as the same. I don't think of the goose as a big duck, or the duck as a small goose. I see the value of each.
But I do think that their similarities warrants a waterfowl category, and some properties most waterfowl share.
People tend not to have patience with that and accuse me of lumping.
I'm more of a schmeerer then. There are distinct boundaries, but there's lots of schmeer in between.
I had so many arguments in college about the definition of a species. Turns out that homo neandertalis is homo sapiens (neandertalis).
There are places where bright lines can be drawn, I'm not sure this is one of them.
@mttaggart One could argue that generative AI is a form of gambling, but so would farming and moving to a new town.
@linuxandyarn I think you need a useful distinction between recreational gambling and risk-taking.
@mttaggart generative AI wouldn't be so bad if the world's wealthiest and most powerful weren't gambling so much wealth on it being able to replace human labor.
