So Google really wants to kill the web and search?
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Engulfing and devour
@tante Just want to plug @kagihq
Not affiliated, but it reminds a bit of Google in 2015. Clean results, no ads, no AI unless you ask for it, you can downrank, uprank or block domains for your future results. And one of my favorites, their index is based on what gives good results, not on what makes them most money.
Downside is that it’s paid (which is why they don’t need to rank for ads). But for me it’s more than worth it.
@sstendahl @kagihq I switched to kagi a few months ago
@tante As of now the Google search engine is broken anyway: I got zero results when I was looking for a name, or looking for stores of certain type. Other search engines pointed me to correct links.
@tante All of these AI guys want to paywall the world’s knowledge that they stole and make it impossible to access without a subscription … that will increase 6%/year to serve you better.
google wants to kill independent thought, making 'thinking outside the box' illegal to impossible.
@tante I don't think Google wants to kill the web as such. On the contrary I suspect it really wants the web to thrive, if nothing else as a source of training data. I don't think it's figured out a way to push its AI priorities that doesn't continue to do businesses on the web serious harm.
@stshank @tante I agree. I think in time they'll come to regret this. Updating the internet will be a thankless task that brings no one any traffic, your info gets robbed safe presented as Google's own. Eventually (soon) people will stop putting anything of worth on the internet, which will become nothing but bots spiralling misinformation.
@tante I am pretty sure their ideal world, and the ideal world of all these companies, is to have their chatbot intercede twice in _every_ communication.
It should change your outputs to remove nuance from your meaning, and then expand it so the entropy goes too low for a person to stand reading it. So, others must summarise with a bot. A second chance to inject what they want.
They want us to feel small if we don't use it to produce, and to feel overwhelmed if we don't use it to consume.
@tante we will descend into madness if 'googling' ceases to be a verb
@tante No surprise
At least webrings will be so back
@tante what have they done now?
@tante Haven't they already?