World Big Tech Debt tour 2025!
20.10.2025 AWS
29.10.2025 Azure
18.11.2025 CloudFlare
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Either CloudFlare is 11 days ahead or someone/something else is planned on 29.10.2025
😂
@rysiek can somebody please post the schedule for advent?
@rysiek @christofsteel so Hetzner is next?
@thegcat @christofsteel I doubt it. I've been using them for over a decade and never seen a single global Hetzner outage.
@rysiek @christofsteel well, we have work stuff and hobby stuff there, the last outage was less than 2 weeks ago 😂
@thegcat @christofsteel haha ouch. Any link to an incident?
@rysiek @christofsteel Mmh, vor 2 Wochen waren wir damit beschäftigt unsere DBs zum Replica zu Failovern, da hatten wir keinen Incident Link im Chat. Da war aber im Endeffekt soweit ich das verstanden habe der Strom zum Rack mit unseren DB Server kaputtgegangen, und die Stromredundanz ist nicht zum Server sondern zum Rack oder vorher, was kaputt gegangen ist war dann auf einem nicht redundanten Stück. Sonst haben wir immer mal wieder instabiles vswitch https://status.hetzner.com/de/incident/5c5af601-2a84-4b26-9bee-10b8e777f18c, kaputte core switches https://status.hetzner.com/incident/d8f251b0-e0bd-4b7d-8360-ec256b404ba4, und das war zwar eine Maintenance, ich weiß gerade nicht mehr ob uns das gekitzelt hatte oder nicht, aber war auch im Chat 😁 https://status.hetzner.com/en/incident/2496170e-d525-4ac3-8b9c-59185b2e7580
@thegcat @christofsteel oh yeah, but that just affected fsn1.
There are always going to be unexpected events and random downtime. But Hetzner has never – to my knowledge – experienced the kind of complete global meltdown as CloudFlare has today (and on several other occasions before).
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@rysiek Flashback to the '80s, when one of the drummers for Sigue Sigue Sputnik allegedly had his own tour T-shirt.
For all his scheduled court appearances.
@rysiek a jak to też będzie problem "networkowy" to choć nie lubię spisków, zaczyna to wyglądać nieciekawie.
@kazoo nie potrzeba żadnego spisku, to po prostu niekompetencja i korporacyjne wyciskanie cytryny:
https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/20/aws_outage_amazon_brain_drain_corey_quinn/
I need the internet gatekeep^W^Wcloud providers to get their shit together, my doctor tells me this amount of popcorn is dangerous to my health.
@rysiek hear me out, this AI tool will change ibternet for the better, we got updates writting themselves!
Yet again I will point out that because "enterprise web development" is cargo-culting these days, a single website might rely on multiple gigantic "cloud" providers at the same time.
We know these exist because when Azure was down, some were blaming CloudFlare. 🤡
There are only so many of these gigantic providers. So if a website relies on CloudFlare, AWS, and Azure simultaneously, over the last month it would have been dead in the water on three different occasions, for hours on end. 👀
Me: Mom, i want decentralized web!
Mom: We have decentralized web at home
Decentralized web at home: website relying on AWS, Cloudflare and Azure at the same time.
You can't be DDoSed if your site is down!
@rysiek CDoS - Centralized Denial of Service
@rysiek You missed the regular, nearly monthly, Office365-issues
2025-09-04 Google
2025-10-15 Google
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_services_outages#2022%E2%80%93present_services_outage
@rysiek Who's next?
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