@thomasfuchs its extra frustrating because the Falcon9 is the best rocket that has ever been built, they clearly had the engineering talent at one time to leapfrog the entire industry while Boeing went down the tubes, where is the evidence of that now? Starship seems like a clown show, it seems Musk scares away all the talent now that he's gone fully off the deep end, plus an inability to be flexible and recalculate when making a bad decision

@thomasfuchs My dad's a die-hard fan and driving me crazy. He's def not fascist but so willing to make excuses for them. He (and I) have always love space science and tech and sure, new (honest) work wd be great. But this outfit, I mean.... Ugh.

@thomasfuchs I'm not sure there isn't fundamental design flaws where the Starship just doesn't have enough margin of robustness so that it'll be catastrophic when they put any amount of weight on it or anything in the flight is even a little rougher than expected. If they had a safety margin they wouldn't have so many blow up