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Tuta
@Tutanota@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

Today is the day Mr. Hummelgaard wanted to push through a vote on Chat Control in the EU Council. But he failed! 🎉 

However, Chat Control will be back, so let's look at what this law means for everyone, not just here in Europe:

#ChatControl is nothing but a Trojan Horse for citizens and businesses in Europe. Why?

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Trojan horse labeled with "Protect Children" while "Mass Surveillance" sits inside and the "EU Member States" welcome it through the gate.
Trojan horse labeled with "Protect Children" while "Mass Surveillance" sits inside and the "EU Member States" welcome it through the gate.
Trojan horse labeled with "Protect Children" while "Mass Surveillance" sits inside and the "EU Member States" welcome it through the gate.
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dotoscat
@dotoscat@mastodon.xyz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota Bullshit, if they want really to protect the children this is not the way and they are not doing anything.

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Pablo Majster :clippy:
@ppaluchowski64@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota And you know what's worst about all this, after delving even deeper into the subject? That it would de facto be the end of *all* privacy 🚫🔐 Because, in reality, this law assumes the scanning of everything sent from our device, not just messages, as is usually said. That's the worst part. That this law normally seems bad because it will scan our messages. But the truth is, this law is the devil because it will scan everything demon

#ChatControl #FightChatControl #StopChatControl

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Debbie Goldsmith 🏳️‍⚧️♾️🇺🇦
@dgoldsmith@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota Here's another classic comic, sadly hard to repurpose for the EU, but the idea is the same.

Cartoon of Uncle Sam wearing dark glasses with his hands on a package labeled “U.S. Govt Control of Internet Speech.” A man in a suit, labeled “corporate media,” asks “How would you like this wrapped?” On the wall behind him are two rolls of wrapping paper, one labeled “anti-terrorism” and the other labeled “protect kids.”
Cartoon of Uncle Sam wearing dark glasses with his hands on a package labeled “U.S. Govt Control of Internet Speech.” A man in a suit, labeled “corporate media,” asks “How would you like this wrapped?” On the wall behind him are two rolls of wrapping paper, one labeled “anti-terrorism” and the other labeled “protect kids.”
Cartoon of Uncle Sam wearing dark glasses with his hands on a package labeled “U.S. Govt Control of Internet Speech.” A man in a suit, labeled “corporate media,” asks “How would you like this wrapped?” On the wall behind him are two rolls of wrapping paper, one labeled “anti-terrorism” and the other labeled “protect kids.”
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Alexander Goeres 𒀯
@jabgoe2089@hub.netzgemeinde.eu replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Tuta you have to be precise with this: it did not fail! to avoid failure the vote was postponed because somehow surprisingly germany showed some resistance. i don't expect it to stay that way.

the eu commission's president Ursula von der Leyen, a member of the cdu, the actual ruling party in germany, was notorious for using the pretext of fighting child abuse to install internet censorship in germany (dns blocking list aso). thus her nickname in germany: Zensursula, from Zensur (censorship) and Ursula ...

a postponed vote can be added quite quickly back on the agenda and fighting the evil internet is a popular topic in party circles of the conservatives. also, don't count on the german chancellor Merz to keep promises he made ...

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TrimTab 🇺🇦
@TrimTab@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota
Palantir is almost certainly behind this evil crap at some level....

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Miron
@hmiron@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota hey Tuta. I appreciate the work you’re doing fighting for our privacy on social media.
In return I’ll fight to adopt your email services within our company.

Let’s see where this takes us 😆

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Tuta
@Tutanota@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@hmiron Amazing, let us know your feedback!

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Kierkegaanks regretfully
@Kierkegaanks@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota let’s up the ante and campaign for the removal of hummelgaard. He’s not qualified for his position anyway, and got it through cronyism

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Tuta
@Tutanota@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

Once built, such a system isn't just able to scan for harmful content, it could very well be used or abused to look for anything interesting:

🔓 Your credit card details

🔓 Your sexual orientation

🔓 Your businesses' customer lists

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w00p
@w00p@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota
It is not even able to scan for harmful content.
It is impossible to differentiate between legitimate nudes or abusive ones.
As well as it is impossible to differentiate grooming vs flirting simply by the chat content.
#chatcontrol is a huge scam!!
Only practical use-case is mass surveillance and information control.

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w00p
@w00p@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota
It is not even able to scan for harmful content.
It is impossible to differentiate between legitimate nudes or abusive ones.
As well as it is impossible to differentiate grooming vs flirting simply by the chat content.
#chatcontrol is a huge scam!!
Only practical use-case is mass surveillance and information control.

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Tuta
@Tutanota@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

In Europe everyone is talking about #DigitalSovereignty - which is great! But we can't have that and undermine our sovereignty by giving law enforcement the key to all encrypted communication. To us at Tuta it's clear:

"There are no backdoors for the good guys only".

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Murray 🇪🇺 :xubuntu:
@MurrayWindripper@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota
You wouldn't just be handing the key to law enforcement. The system would likely be outsourced to a private company that may not be based in the EU.
There's also the system itself. Cast your minds back to the Post Office fiasco in the UK, where innocent people were jailed for fraud because the system had flaws.

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hdv1
@hdv1@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Tutanota And in the end: who defines what is a 'goog guy'!

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Tuta
@Tutanota@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

AI technology designed to detect illegal material cannot distinguish between "good" and "bad" speech. It opens the door for governments, now or in the future, to monitor all messages, photos, and videos. Once the infrastructure for scanning is in place, it can and will be used for other means as well.

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