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Dan Gillmor
@dangillmor@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

What a massively sleazy company Uber is -- see this breakdown of how it profits by systematically screwing drivers and riders.

https://len-sherman.medium.com/how-uber-became-a-cash-generating-machine-ef78e7a97230

Take a taxi, if you can still find one.

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llewelly
@llewelly@sauropods.win replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@dangillmor I lived in silly con valley for 5 years, and the whole time, everyone kept trying to convince me to take uber (I don't drive) rather than public transit, and everytime I tried to explain how awful uber was, they had all kinds of dishonest reasons for not listening.
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Sibrosan
@sibrosan@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@dangillmor I have the impression that #Uber works out quite well for customers as well as drivers in #Brazil. The drivers appear pretty happy with their work.

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No Me Sigan, No Sé Adónde Voy!
@NoMeSigan@mastodon.uy replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@dangillmor

Uber y Rappi (una APP de entregas) dejan de ser la "solución" para el desempleo en la Argentina!

https://www.agenda365.com.ar/noticia/uber-y-rappi-dejan-de-ser-la-soluci%C3%B3n-para-los-despedidos-hay-m%C3%A1s-competidores-y-menos

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tuga
@tuga@masto.pt replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@dangillmor
Bolt seems more usable.
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Toni Aittoniemi
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@dangillmor And how did they get there? Infinite money.

They undercut their prices to bancrupt competition for more than a decade.

This is not the free market, this is cartels.

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Nick
@nickmyers@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@dangillmor a business model deliberately designed to extract value from labour while avoiding the obligations that normally protect and pay workers, in order to "maximise shareholder value". The capitalists wet dream. FInancialising human effort so it can be treated like a raw material, traded and optimised for returns.

If society leaves it to “the market,” these people will keep doing it, because the system rewards them. If society changes the rules of the game - through law, governance, and culture - then the people pushing these models either adapt or lose their licence to operate.

Or there is always guillotines.

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Leeloo
@leeloo@chaosfem.tw replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@dangillmor
Find one?

Over here you call (just be happy they don't require sending a fax) to order one friday evening, and if you're lucky it shows up around noon sunday.

Pricing seems to be intentionally set to keep DUI competitive, though to be fair it's probably because they are only interested in customers who are too rich or too drunk to care.

But Uber anything else that smells like competition for the taxi monopolies is illegal, presumably because without income from DUI fines, the government would have to raise taxes (ok, maybe that's not the official reason, but it's what it feels like*).

*) especially when you hear again and again that the government has a goal of reducing CO2 by significantly increasing the number of people who travel by train, but every time someone suggests something that would do that, it gets shot down immediately because that would require investing in more rail cars. But no worries, we are on track to hitting the goal sometime after the year 8000. Yes, that's eight.

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davec :tinoflag:
@zebratale@mastodon.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@dangillmor always about the grift with the tech bros
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Sanjay Lunayach
@snjy_harmonic@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@dangillmor
I'm a great Uber Fan due to its no-nonsense rides in my city [Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India]
But After go through your blog, It put me in an aww... How these giant companies are trying to put pressures on their own employees.
It's horrible to see it.
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Dusk To Don :raccoon:
@dusk@todon.eu replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@dangillmor

Great article, fascinating research.

In the “path to profitability” section it mentions:

> Divested money-losing non-core operations (e.g., autonomous vehicle R&D, air taxi services)

the latter is one of my favorite bits of Uber nonsense.

**music swells as the rider in the air taxi gazes down on the poor proles stuck in traffic down below**

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S_UcY15xWSk

#uber

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Luna chan
@Luna@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@dangillmor Of course they're scummy.
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Daniel AJ Sokolov
@newstik@social.heise.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@dangillmor Uber is not a nice company. But they were living off shareholder capital for years, it was obviously unsustainable.

So now that they have market dominance, they raise prices and reduce payouts to drivers. It's no surprise, that was the playbook all along.

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andrew773
@andrew773@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@dangillmor Even better take public transportation, cycle, or walk if possible.
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