@Tutanota @pluralistic I’m sorry, I’m all for holding giant corporations accountable and raising red flags when necessary, but this feels like unhelpful and inaccurate fear mongering.

https://9to5google.com/2025/06/25/gemini-privacy-change-email/

Gemini isn’t about to start “scanning your phone.” If you use a Google phone running Google’s OS with Google apps and the Google “AI” assistant, then starting today you can use that AI assistant without having to turn on “Apps Activity.” That’s all.

@Tutanota @pluralistic enabling “Apps Activity” saves your interactions with Gemini and uses it to train their AI. You used to have to enable it to use the optional per-app integrations that would allow Gemini to access Google apps like Calendar or Messages so you could ask it things like, “what’s next on my calendar?” Now you can use those app integrations—if you want—without having to enable Apps Activity.

Or, you could just not use Gemini.

There is no new “scanning your phone” thing.

@cassidy @Tutanota @pluralistic

I don't mean to attack you personally but your position here is whitewashing Google's invasion of user privacy here.

Uploading people's WhatsApp conversations to Google's server without explicit user consent is unacceptable.

Are we supposed to trust Google with the content of our private conversations? Especially when they stealthily reach out to grab them. No.

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Just wanted to specifically call out @e_mydata as another lovely deGoogled Android alternative. Their installation process was among the easiest in terms of technical skills required (i.e., no command line use required) and having @murena offer the OS preinstalled on phones is, in my opinion, a great way to get the less-technically inclined folks on board.